Hi – here’s a great debate starter: If the same unhappy things keep happening over and over again for you with men – should you go to to the source and ask the men what happened?
Here’s the question from “ABC”::
Hi Rori,
I have a question regarding how to react to a man pulling away without any warning, and what to say to him if I want to find out the reason why he does that – that will help me understand who I am more.
This is a big issue for me—i don’t know if this is also happening to other women. Men I date chase me aggressively yet pull away after 6, 7 dates without any warning signs. I start to wonder if it’s something that I do, I say, or certain vibe I give out? i start to wonder if i am the one standing in my own way to Happily Ever After.
i would really appreciate it if you can share your experiences with us about this. Thank you, ABC”
Here’s my answer:
This is a terrific question, and I can go three ways:
Way 1. Just go with – ” He’s not the right man, forget him, I’m Circular Dating, I’m pursued by hundreds of men and don’t care about any one of them in particular.”
Logic says that you are choosing men and getting attached to them before a strong connection is made. Logic says that you’re an attractive woman a man wants to date, but that as it starts to loom more “serious” – and sex becomes an issue of a “serious” relationship – he opts out. it’s not that he’s no longer interested in “dating” you – he just doesn’t want to take the relationship further.
This kind of thing can simply be solved with Circular Dating and allowing this to happen as part of the process. The good man who is right for you will simply “stick,” while everyone else comes in and goes out.
Logic says also that you may be focusing on this one man after 6 or 7 dates, and all of a sudden start Leaning Forward and Overfunctioning, and yes, your vibe changes.
All of a sudden a man will start “resisting” you instead of “falling into you.”
Now, for Way #2 – here’s a totally new, radical idea that’s only for those who can be completely detached and in total “friend” mode for REAL with a man – otherwise try it ONLY with a new man you are not attracted to except as a friend:
Way 2. This ONLY applies if it’s a pattern showing up. Doing this with one particular man where something unexpected happened can only help you when you’re no longer emotionally attached to him – so be very vigilant and stick with number 1 for now if you’re hurting at all, or have any feelings for a man whatsoever.
But if you, like ABC, like the Ginnifer Goodwin character in He’s Just Not That Into You, are finding this a pattern happening over and over again exactly the same way…you might try this:
Call one of these guys up, tell him you need some help, you’re doing a survey of your life and of men for a blog you post on (truth, remember) - and you’d like to interview him. Ask if he’d like to set a time to do it by phone or if he’s free now.
Then ask him questions you prepared in advance (tell him you’ll use a fake name for him).
Your questions: All my girlfriends are having this problem, and on the blog I read about it all the time – a man dates a girl 6 or 7 times, and then just drops out. I know this happened with us, and I’d really appreciate if you’d be absolutely truthful with me about what happened (channeling the Ginnifer Goodwin character here – you can even tell him about that movie and that it’s an experiment doing what that character did) – is it chemistry, is it the forever thing, was it intellectual, or some kind of fit that’s important to a man…is it some way we women act at a certain point, did I fall into that trap…how long did it take for you to decide you wouldn’t call again…did you know right off but keep dating me to see if you could change your mind… how does a man’s mind work with this?
Treat him as you would if you were a big time reporter and he was the interviewee.
Write it all down – everything he says, right there – and then post it here!!! You can even invite him to drop in and comment if he’s that kind of guy.
Make sure you pick a man you no longer have any energy for – someone you could call a friend, sort of.
Sound like an interesting idea?
Okay – now let’s get real about this...I’ve tried it myself – but it only felt good and helpful with NEW men, because I never was able to completely detach from an old man enough to get real answers from him, and most men don’t know, or won’t say, anyway – if they’ve ever been involved with you.
Most of the time, the answers will be things you’ve already heard from him – about “space” and “I’m not ready for a serious relationship and I could feel that’s what you wanted” – and those answers just speak to the Truth that he simply was not right for you, and it’s GOOD that it didn’t go past date 7 and waste your time…
…but for ABC – this feels like a mystery to her. If you do this, ABC – be sure and let us know how it went for you and if you were able to learn anything meaningful.
And here’s Way #3:
1. Go back and write down some of the way those last few dates went. Your discussions, your energy. Feel how you felt and remember and write down what you said.
2. See if you can find a pattern there.
See if you can feel yourself focusing on him and hoping the relationship would work out and treating him differently than you’d treat any other man you were out with for the evening.
See if you were not simply putting out your wants and don’t wants – “I’m not looking for a casual relationship, or a boyfriend – I’m looking for marriage and family and it feels better to keep my options open and date until that shows up…” – but were trying to find out if HE was the one.
3. Imagine pulling back from this man and this situation. Imagine really Circular Dating and not focusing on him, and not caring if he ever calls again until he actually makes a claim on you…
Imagine how that feels.
Now – is that what you were feeling with him?
If not – that’s what happened, that’s where the work is for you. So – you don’t have to interview him, you can interview YOURSELF!
Let me know how this works for you…
Love, Rori