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		<title>By: Desperate Army Wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desperate Army Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rori,
I’m so heartbroken…Don’t know what to do. In 2000, I broke up w/ my cheating ex-husband who got his mistress pregnant. At the time, my friend (now my husband- Nick) was my rock.
Nick left me bec. he fell in love w/me and I couldn’t return the feelings. I was going thru the divorce. Nick joined the ARMY to forget about me.We kept in touch. He met someone new and married her. He didn’t know I got divorced.
 In 2003, as soon as he left for Iraq, she cheated on him. He didn’t talk to her after that and divorced her. In 2005, we met again. Love at first sight.
I knew he would be the one for me. Within 5 mos., we eloped before he left for Iraq the 2nd time. I waited for him and had a 2nd wedding. Huge &amp; over 450 guests in 2007.
In 2008, he left for Iraq the 3rd time. We were doing great. All the soldiers informed me each time that he constantly talked about me. He loved me so much! They said he loved me very much.

I went thru a very traumatic event in 2008. Grandma died in hospice care November2008. On the day of funeral, my brother had a massive stroke. At the same time, my son was arrested for drug possession and alot of different things (16 yo). Husband(Nick) was still in Iraq, unable to be with me. Then, I had to have removal of pre-cancerous cells having a Total abdominal hysterectomy. There was so much darkness in my life that I was so depressed. All these times, my husband was in Iraq. When he came back, he had to deal with us going to courts for my son’s arrest. We didn’t really have time to be together. Then, he left to go home to Texas (I own a house there). However, I live in California. To make a long story short, he reinstated his ARMY contract without consulting with me first for another 4 yrs. He’s supposed to be out in 2011. Now it got extended to 2013. I was upset but still wanted his love. With all of this, in June..he started to act very distant. I started to feel threatened. It would seem that he kept pushing me away for some reason… I didn’t know if it was another woman. His family assured me that he’ll get his senses back and find his way back to me. In July, he sent me an ARMY ring that claims me as his wife. I talked to him last in August. I have not heard from him for a whole month. On my birthday, Sept 1, 2009 He sent me a huge very expensive bouquet of flowers. But yet, NO calls back from him. I asked the ARMY FRG to check on my husband. to see how he’s coping/adjusting. He came from Iraq-California, spent a month doing courts for my son, went to Texas moving into Washington. The ARMY said that they’ll look into it and will help him for his PTSD.
I don’t know what to do. I feel he just gave up on our family. We were the closest of all couples. He used embarrassed me cause he would constantly kiss me in front of all his family…..Then, now… nothing. What do I do to get him back? I live in California, he now lives in Washington. I am so depressed. His family said to leave him alone. I was leaving him alone until the ARMY told me he admitted he has PTSD. He also stated he needed help bec. he can’t deal with it. He wants to go back to Iraq bec. dealing with the problems over here was too much. I want to be at his side but family says I should just leave him alone. I’m afraid that he’ll find other women or probably with another woman right now. I don&#039;t know.  I ‘m so scared of losing him coz he is a great man. Should I leave him alone or should I be at his side? I’m lost and confused. Counseling doesn’t help. I’ve gone to 2 counselors already and they make me more depressed than ever. How do you handle a guy who isn’t normal? My first instinct is to leave him alone. This advise would be for a normal guy. He’s not normal… there’s something wrong with his psyche if he&#039;s just leaving me COLD TURKEY.
Thanks!
Sad chanelle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rori,<br />
I’m so heartbroken…Don’t know what to do. In 2000, I broke up w/ my cheating ex-husband who got his mistress pregnant. At the time, my friend (now my husband- Nick) was my rock.<br />
Nick left me bec. he fell in love w/me and I couldn’t return the feelings. I was going thru the divorce. Nick joined the ARMY to forget about me.We kept in touch. He met someone new and married her. He didn’t know I got divorced.<br />
 In 2003, as soon as he left for Iraq, she cheated on him. He didn’t talk to her after that and divorced her. In 2005, we met again. Love at first sight.<br />
I knew he would be the one for me. Within 5 mos., we eloped before he left for Iraq the 2nd time. I waited for him and had a 2nd wedding. Huge &amp; over 450 guests in 2007.<br />
In 2008, he left for Iraq the 3rd time. We were doing great. All the soldiers informed me each time that he constantly talked about me. He loved me so much! They said he loved me very much.</p>
<p>I went thru a very traumatic event in 2008. Grandma died in hospice care November2008. On the day of funeral, my brother had a massive stroke. At the same time, my son was arrested for drug possession and alot of different things (16 yo). Husband(Nick) was still in Iraq, unable to be with me. Then, I had to have removal of pre-cancerous cells having a Total abdominal hysterectomy. There was so much darkness in my life that I was so depressed. All these times, my husband was in Iraq. When he came back, he had to deal with us going to courts for my son’s arrest. We didn’t really have time to be together. Then, he left to go home to Texas (I own a house there). However, I live in California. To make a long story short, he reinstated his ARMY contract without consulting with me first for another 4 yrs. He’s supposed to be out in 2011. Now it got extended to 2013. I was upset but still wanted his love. With all of this, in June..he started to act very distant. I started to feel threatened. It would seem that he kept pushing me away for some reason… I didn’t know if it was another woman. His family assured me that he’ll get his senses back and find his way back to me. In July, he sent me an ARMY ring that claims me as his wife. I talked to him last in August. I have not heard from him for a whole month. On my birthday, Sept 1, 2009 He sent me a huge very expensive bouquet of flowers. But yet, NO calls back from him. I asked the ARMY FRG to check on my husband. to see how he’s coping/adjusting. He came from Iraq-California, spent a month doing courts for my son, went to Texas moving into Washington. The ARMY said that they’ll look into it and will help him for his PTSD.<br />
I don’t know what to do. I feel he just gave up on our family. We were the closest of all couples. He used embarrassed me cause he would constantly kiss me in front of all his family…..Then, now… nothing. What do I do to get him back? I live in California, he now lives in Washington. I am so depressed. His family said to leave him alone. I was leaving him alone until the ARMY told me he admitted he has PTSD. He also stated he needed help bec. he can’t deal with it. He wants to go back to Iraq bec. dealing with the problems over here was too much. I want to be at his side but family says I should just leave him alone. I’m afraid that he’ll find other women or probably with another woman right now. I don&#8217;t know.  I ‘m so scared of losing him coz he is a great man. Should I leave him alone or should I be at his side? I’m lost and confused. Counseling doesn’t help. I’ve gone to 2 counselors already and they make me more depressed than ever. How do you handle a guy who isn’t normal? My first instinct is to leave him alone. This advise would be for a normal guy. He’s not normal… there’s something wrong with his psyche if he&#8217;s just leaving me COLD TURKEY.<br />
Thanks!<br />
Sad chanelle</p>
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		<title>By: Rori Raye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rori Raye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - strong on inside, soft on outside
Leanback, but open up
Use feeling messages - don&#039;t &quot;organize&quot; or overfunction.
Love, Rori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; strong on inside, soft on outside<br />
Leanback, but open up<br />
Use feeling messages &#8211; don&#8217;t &#8220;organize&#8221; or overfunction.<br />
Love, Rori</p>
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		<title>By: Overlooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overlooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself getting nervous about him coming home Friday. Not so much nervous, as skeptical. I&#039;ve been listening to my reconnect CD. There are really a lot of things to remember, and so so many tools. Which is great ... but hard to focus on. I&#039;m feeling overwhelmed a little bit. What are the top three things to remember, so I can at least concentrate on those, for the first day he&#039;s home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself getting nervous about him coming home Friday. Not so much nervous, as skeptical. I&#8217;ve been listening to my reconnect CD. There are really a lot of things to remember, and so so many tools. Which is great &#8230; but hard to focus on. I&#8217;m feeling overwhelmed a little bit. What are the top three things to remember, so I can at least concentrate on those, for the first day he&#8217;s home?</p>
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		<title>By: Flipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fabulous, O-L - thanks so much for sharing. Hugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fabulous, O-L &#8211; thanks so much for sharing. Hugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overlooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At 3pm yesterday, I recieved a call at my office from him, from Japan. We had a short but good conversation. One part ...

&quot;It feels so great to hear your voice. If I close my eyes it&#039;s like you&#039;re here.&quot;
&quot;Does that make you happy?&quot;
&quot;Yes, it does.&quot;

(He wants me to be happy = not toxic!) He called later and talked to the kids at home. But this call was for me. He said he would call the next day, and I said that would make me happy. I said thank you.

I&#039;ll let everyone know how we progress after the homecoming in a week.

Thank you, Rori.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 3pm yesterday, I recieved a call at my office from him, from Japan. We had a short but good conversation. One part &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It feels so great to hear your voice. If I close my eyes it&#8217;s like you&#8217;re here.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Does that make you happy?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yes, it does.&#8221;</p>
<p>(He wants me to be happy = not toxic!) He called later and talked to the kids at home. But this call was for me. He said he would call the next day, and I said that would make me happy. I said thank you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let everyone know how we progress after the homecoming in a week.</p>
<p>Thank you, Rori.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overlooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a short walk today. It felt so great to have the sun beating down on my skin. Three men gawked at me. Two male attorneys I know stopped (one stopped in the middle of the road in his car and rolled down his window) to tell me I was &quot;looking great.&quot; Upon my return to the office a male co-worker said &quot;I can really tell you&#039;re losing weight.&quot;

So funny. I haven&#039;t lost any weight or changed anything about my physical appearance for two months. Obviously, it&#039;s my insides that changed today!

So, I wanted to share that success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a short walk today. It felt so great to have the sun beating down on my skin. Three men gawked at me. Two male attorneys I know stopped (one stopped in the middle of the road in his car and rolled down his window) to tell me I was &#8220;looking great.&#8221; Upon my return to the office a male co-worker said &#8220;I can really tell you&#8217;re losing weight.&#8221;</p>
<p>So funny. I haven&#8217;t lost any weight or changed anything about my physical appearance for two months. Obviously, it&#8217;s my insides that changed today!</p>
<p>So, I wanted to share that success.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overlooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eureka! Update ... we communicated last night. I was able to change how I was thinking about his words into how I felt. And it was so much easier ...

Series of emails:
-----
From me, Wednesday:

That last part where I said I wished you were home so I could punch you was supposed to make you laugh! I hope it did. The kids want to hear from you, especially Olivia. It would feel great to hear your voice. We are home now, and we will be at home this time tomorrow.

-----
From me, Thursday:

It feels like I&#039;m talking to an empty space. I want to talk to you. I feel totally out of control because I don&#039;t have a phone number for you.

----- 
From him, within a couple of hours:

I am sorry I have not called.  Dale and I are on 12 hour shifts in an underground facility that does not have exterior phones.  With passdowns, I am actually in the bunker from 5PM to 7AM...I just woke up and it is 1230AM your time.  In addition, I lost my voice.  This has been a fatiguing exercise... Please tell my little girl that I will call this evening.  I miss you guys as well...all of you, but I especially miss talking to you.  I think you made some very bad decisions when you walked away from me at the airport...but that was your choice.  I did not walk away...I stood there waiting to give you a hug and kiss and you walked away...it takes two to hug and kiss...you chose to walk away...that event is something you must look inside for why and what you were trying to accomplish.

I love you and I love the kids...please tell them.

Me

----- 
From me:

(first I included responses from the kids, letting him know I had communicated as he requested).

Thank you for the apology. It&#039;s so nice to get a message from you about what you&#039;re doing and what it&#039;s like there. I knew you would be working very hard. It also touched my heart to hear you say that you &quot;especially&quot; miss talking to me. That feels connected, even though you are very far away.  I&#039;m looking forward to hearing your (hoarse) voice.

-----
So at first that felt fake. At first I wrote &quot;Quit blaming me and let&#039;s move on!&quot; But I stopped thinking. I re-read what he wrote that made me think that way.

(1) He says he thinks I made a bad decision. He is entitled to his opinion.

(2) He says it takes two to hug and kiss. I agree!

(3) He says I chose to walk away and I need to look deep inside for why, and what I was trying to accomplish. I have, and I like my decision, and I like what I accomplished!

So I did not respond to all that stuff. He didn&#039;t ask my opinion about it. I responded to the good stuff. I hope it won&#039;t take long for him to move away from the &quot;old way&quot; - the blame thing. I can see that when we are face to face, this is going to be difficult for me. I am going to concentrate on his words, not what I think he&#039;s saying.

OK, these are baby steps. Did I miss an opportunity to say more, or is this going the right way? I feel good about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eureka! Update &#8230; we communicated last night. I was able to change how I was thinking about his words into how I felt. And it was so much easier &#8230;</p>
<p>Series of emails:<br />
&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From me, Wednesday:</p>
<p>That last part where I said I wished you were home so I could punch you was supposed to make you laugh! I hope it did. The kids want to hear from you, especially Olivia. It would feel great to hear your voice. We are home now, and we will be at home this time tomorrow.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From me, Thursday:</p>
<p>It feels like I&#8217;m talking to an empty space. I want to talk to you. I feel totally out of control because I don&#8217;t have a phone number for you.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From him, within a couple of hours:</p>
<p>I am sorry I have not called.  Dale and I are on 12 hour shifts in an underground facility that does not have exterior phones.  With passdowns, I am actually in the bunker from 5PM to 7AM&#8230;I just woke up and it is 1230AM your time.  In addition, I lost my voice.  This has been a fatiguing exercise&#8230; Please tell my little girl that I will call this evening.  I miss you guys as well&#8230;all of you, but I especially miss talking to you.  I think you made some very bad decisions when you walked away from me at the airport&#8230;but that was your choice.  I did not walk away&#8230;I stood there waiting to give you a hug and kiss and you walked away&#8230;it takes two to hug and kiss&#8230;you chose to walk away&#8230;that event is something you must look inside for why and what you were trying to accomplish.</p>
<p>I love you and I love the kids&#8230;please tell them.</p>
<p>Me</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;<br />
From me:</p>
<p>(first I included responses from the kids, letting him know I had communicated as he requested).</p>
<p>Thank you for the apology. It&#8217;s so nice to get a message from you about what you&#8217;re doing and what it&#8217;s like there. I knew you would be working very hard. It also touched my heart to hear you say that you &#8220;especially&#8221; miss talking to me. That feels connected, even though you are very far away.  I&#8217;m looking forward to hearing your (hoarse) voice.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;<br />
So at first that felt fake. At first I wrote &#8220;Quit blaming me and let&#8217;s move on!&#8221; But I stopped thinking. I re-read what he wrote that made me think that way.</p>
<p>(1) He says he thinks I made a bad decision. He is entitled to his opinion.</p>
<p>(2) He says it takes two to hug and kiss. I agree!</p>
<p>(3) He says I chose to walk away and I need to look deep inside for why, and what I was trying to accomplish. I have, and I like my decision, and I like what I accomplished!</p>
<p>So I did not respond to all that stuff. He didn&#8217;t ask my opinion about it. I responded to the good stuff. I hope it won&#8217;t take long for him to move away from the &#8220;old way&#8221; &#8211; the blame thing. I can see that when we are face to face, this is going to be difficult for me. I am going to concentrate on his words, not what I think he&#8217;s saying.</p>
<p>OK, these are baby steps. Did I miss an opportunity to say more, or is this going the right way? I feel good about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overlooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not angry today. Saying it out loud (or emailing it) and thinking about it as a fact instead of an emotion was like freedom. No, not like freedom, it was freedom. So, it&#039;s gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not angry today. Saying it out loud (or emailing it) and thinking about it as a fact instead of an emotion was like freedom. No, not like freedom, it was freedom. So, it&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Overlooked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overlooked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I see that. I can see that. I did send him an email regarding the phone and the kids, with that goal in mind. I started out angry, and I found myself laughing. I just let the whole thing stay in the email, even though it sounded schizophrenic. Here&#039;s what I wrote:

&quot;Your little girl cried last night, and again this morning after I sent my email to you. She keeps asking why you haven&#039;t called. I have told her that you may not have a phone where you are, and that there is a time difference that makes it difficult. I keep redirecting her as best I can. I feel really angry about this, like I might hit you if you were standing here. That is real. I love you, and I miss you. And I wish you were here so I could punch you.&quot;

And I think that last part was funny. I don&#039;t know if he will or not, but it was funny AND true! And now I feel better, no matter whether he calls or not.

Still working on not WANTING to be angry, but I&#039;m getting there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I see that. I can see that. I did send him an email regarding the phone and the kids, with that goal in mind. I started out angry, and I found myself laughing. I just let the whole thing stay in the email, even though it sounded schizophrenic. Here&#8217;s what I wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Your little girl cried last night, and again this morning after I sent my email to you. She keeps asking why you haven&#8217;t called. I have told her that you may not have a phone where you are, and that there is a time difference that makes it difficult. I keep redirecting her as best I can. I feel really angry about this, like I might hit you if you were standing here. That is real. I love you, and I miss you. And I wish you were here so I could punch you.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I think that last part was funny. I don&#8217;t know if he will or not, but it was funny AND true! And now I feel better, no matter whether he calls or not.</p>
<p>Still working on not WANTING to be angry, but I&#8217;m getting there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rori Raye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rori Raye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overlooked, I think it went WELL.  And the idea was to get him on the phone with the kids.  Just focus on the kids, on bridging the gap.  Get webcams.  Set up a family blog.  Get the family together.  and while he&#039;s gone...I want you to work on NOT having arguments anymore (which it seems to me you did very well in the exchange here).  Also - He said... I Love You…and I miss you…That is real.  Now, THAT is what I want you to train yourself to RESPOND to!!! What you&#039;re doing here is &#039;sticking&quot; to your agenda - and I want you to rethink this whole thing along the lines of my method of strong on the INSIDE, soft on the OUTSIDE...keep reading and doing Tools.  Love, Rori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overlooked, I think it went WELL.  And the idea was to get him on the phone with the kids.  Just focus on the kids, on bridging the gap.  Get webcams.  Set up a family blog.  Get the family together.  and while he&#8217;s gone&#8230;I want you to work on NOT having arguments anymore (which it seems to me you did very well in the exchange here).  Also &#8211; He said&#8230; I Love You…and I miss you…That is real.  Now, THAT is what I want you to train yourself to RESPOND to!!! What you&#8217;re doing here is &#8216;sticking&#8221; to your agenda &#8211; and I want you to rethink this whole thing along the lines of my method of strong on the INSIDE, soft on the OUTSIDE&#8230;keep reading and doing Tools.  Love, Rori</p>
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