The Goddess Way – Embody Your True Essence and Discover Your Feminine Power

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dominiqueDominique’s created a Goddess program! I love Dominique, she’s SO amazing, I so love her as a person and as a coach and teacher (her body-work techniques are just off-the charts original and mind-blowing, and I’m so grateful for what she shares and how she helps here on this blog and on her own website) – and now she’s sharing it all with us here:

by Dominique

As some of you know, I launched very first video program this week.

The Goddess Way ~ The Art of Embodying Your True Essence ~ Discover Your Feminine Power While Deepening Intimacy With Your Man

A REVOLUTIONARY and UNIQUE program, full of wonderful information, tips, meditations, and so much more on YOU and YOU IN RELATIONSHIP –

It’s been divided into eleven separate, more easily digestible sections including a very special additional section – a gift of a video recorded guided meditation. The program comes with a manual which is filled with all kinds of bonus material.

All of this is for immediate access and is computer and/or phone downloadable.

My new program is a culmination of ALL I have been teaching over the last five years and much, much more.

The series encompasses topics from skin and body care – the information about which stems from my over twenty years as a natural healing technique esthetician and herbalist ~

To learning about your deepest inner body on a physical as well as an emotional level – taken from my many, many years of personal exploration into this really IMPORTANT topic – eg. where YOU hold tension and what to do about it ~

To the KEY to relationship bliss – along with EVERYTHING I have learned and incorporate into my personal AND relationship life on a daily basis which will attract and KEEP the man of your dreams ~

To your sexuality – alone and in relationship, showing you ways to  enjoy more fully and expand on this delicious gift you have been given ~

  • I will show you how to take the very best care of you in all ways – physically, emotionally, and spiritually – giving you tips on skin and body care including home remedies and recipes for your outer and inner body
  • I will teach you how to become aware of and release tension in your being which has resulted from an accumulation of hurts and traumas you have sustained whether they be physical ones or emotional ones – this ALONE will give you a clarity about yourself and your surrounding world AND your relationship like nothing else
  • I will show you several incredible meditations to help you get in better touch with YOU and how you feel as well shift all of this to a better feeling place
  • I will help you open your eyes to all that is ALREADY WONDERFUL in your world right now and show you how to manifest more
  • I will teach you all about the masculine/feminine energy dynamic and what this means in your relationship
  • I will give you some wonderful goddess rituals to employ on a daily basis and to use when preparing for a date so that you can have the best date possible whether it’s a new man or one you’ve been with for awhile
  • I will give you EXTENSIVE instruction on communication
  • I will give you in an depth exploration of you as a goddess in relationship – the best ways to BE in your relationship – how to create the profoundly intimate, deeply cherishing and loving relationship you SO want for yourself
  • I will show you how to heal your sexuality and take it to heights and depths in ways you may have not thought possible, awakening sensations and feelings you may have never felt before

And SO much more

Here is a tip from my program –

Thankfulness Journal

Most of us tend to focus more on what DOESN’T feel good instead of on what DOES FEEL GOOD. Keeping a thankfulness journal will help keep the GOOD STUFF in the forefront of your consciousness more of the time. And there is likely SO much more of this in your life than you could have ever possibly imagined until you begin to write about it.

When you are keeping your focus primarily on what feels good, the stuff that doesn’t feel so good won’t have as much of an impact on you. It won’t throw you as much, bother you, annoy you, irritate you, or make you angry nearly as much if at all.

When you can recognize ALL that really is SO wonderful in your life, the rest will feel more like blips on the screen of your radar and won’t tend to take you over and overwhelm you.

You will feel better able to handle whatever life has to offer you and this includes the bad feeling stuff too.

Even the more serious events and traumas you will be able to handle with far more grace and equanimity.

This is the format I prefer for writing in my thankfulness journal –

“I feel SO thankful for…..”, and it could be anything from the tiniest treasure, eg. a beautiful bird singing at your window, to the grandest gift, eg. a gorgeous necklace from your man.

And then you will describe how it makes you feel – “I feel SO filled up hearing this lovely song,” or “this necklace makes me feel SO goddessy, like a princess.” Elaborate as much or as little as you wish.

Wrap up each thing you feel thankful for with this – “I feel SO loved. I feel so supported. And it’s all feels SO easy and effortless.”

Read more about my NEW, AMAZING, LIFE CHANGING program.

The Goddess Way ~ The Art of Embodying Your True Essence ~
Discover Your Feminine Power While Deepening Intimacy With Your Man

xxoo Love, Dominique

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  1.  #1Rebecca on February 10, 2013 at 10:23 am


  2.  #2Rebecca on February 10, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Yay Dominique !! sounds amazing 🙂

  3.  #3Femininewoman on February 10, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Yayyy Dominique. Love ya

  4.  #4Smile on February 10, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Fab dominique!!

  5.  #5Emoticon on February 10, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    Love this… and all the calls leading up to it <3

  6.  #6Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    This is great Dominique;)

  7.  #7Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    I kept on typing on the old thread

  8.  #8Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Sometimes I think that perhaps the fact that I never contacted dumbcd again was actually cool?

  9.  #9k2012 on February 10, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Wow, Dominique. Sounds good. Have to read it. Your words sound really encouraging I must tell u. Somehow u and Mercedes remind me of each other. People’s personalities somehow come out in their posts. I was wondering when Rori was going to start a new thread as the last went up to about 1169 i believe. Have to catch up on that later. Thankfully I will be on a break later this week. I look forward to it.

  10.  #10Rebecca on February 10, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    Turquoise – 1146 – from the other thread – Yes, I agree – I think it’s about those little details I guess.
    Today I did manage to cook a recipe that I’ve wanted to cook for ages – and I really enjoyed being in my kitchen and grinding all my spices, and using all my appliances! I felt a real sense of pride…

    Ironically though although the dish looked nice, it was pretty bland. But I had fun cooking it!! hehe 🙂

  11.  #11Emoticon on February 10, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    love cooking as a form of fun expression….. dislike cooking as an obligation (or chore)

  12.  #12Annie on February 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm

    1159: Luzydel says:

    From last thread.

    “Does anyone know a good natural way tht can help with Fibroids. I have fibroids and though I have no heavy periods or strong symptoms yet, Dr. suggested a hysterectomy; I think it is a bit barbaric, especially when I do not have strong symptoms yet. I was usin DIM plus and vitex and they were helping a lot; but some Dr. say it is not good to mix plenty of natural supplements. (now I do not believe him because when I was using them fibroids were small and when I stopped they got bigger). I also heard of Serapastate (SP?) as being effective to reduce their size.

    I want to try a more holistic approach before going under the knife. Anyone knows of any other remedies?”

    If you have no real problems why so you want to do anything? I feel confused|?
    They go away on there own after the menopause.
    I had one the size of a grapefruit that caused be excessive bleeding to the point of not being able to leave the house for a couple of days every month.
    Convectional; options were live with it.
    Have it removed and risk womb rupturing, very evasive.
    And hysterectomy very evasive and then left with other problems in your case most like most likely worse than the fibroid.
    Live with it unless they cause you severe problems and you want to chose one of first two conventional options.
    Or I decided to try acupuncture which worked for me. Fibroid disappeared./

    So depends which choice you believe is your best option at this moment in time.
    Not the doctors choice.
    He is there to advise you on options available. Not convince or coerce.

    Sunday, 10 February 2013 @ 1:59pm
    1173: AnnieNo Gravatar says:

    Or Dominique options and what you are doing if you think they are best options.

    Only you know what is best option for you. X

  13.  #13April Rose on February 10, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Yay Dominique,
    Your program sounds beautiful.
    Thanks, lovely lady 🙂

  14.  #14Luzydel on February 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Thanks Annie, mine is aprox. 7cc, however I have no heavy pain or bleeding and my cycle is normal around 28 days. I hated when Dr. said since you do not want any more kids, why have your uterus? My mom had an hysterectomy and now she developed cardiovascular problems and bone weakness. Im 38, and no I do not want a baby, but I do not want to take higher risks.

  15.  #15Annie on February 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    It feels best to me to focus on the reality of every individual moment as and when they arise. Not on one or the other. When something feels good , fantastic ,great and I like it say it as it is in the moment and want it by me and around me and to be with it And when something feels bad, awful, devastating etc I again say it as it is and want to get it away from me or me away from it.
    I love cherish and honor all of my feelings and don’t want to ignore any of them. And it feels best to me to put my focus on what is really happening rather than taking my focus off the real moment. So if something feels good, express it smile melt into it enjoy.
    And if something feels bad be authentic, express it show it and get my energy out of there or there energy away from me.

  16.  #16Annie on February 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm


    “I hated when Dr. said since you do not want any more kids, why have your uterus?”


    was he male or female?

  17.  #17Annie on February 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm


  18.  #18Annie on February 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    A lot of Doctors sadly are not known for their sensitivity towards their patients.
    Hugs. X

  19.  #19Annie on February 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    And in all honesty, you sound like you know more than your Doc does on subject.

    The words ” trust me I’m a doctor.”
    I personally take with a pinch of salt.
    All most tell you is what they are spoon fed.
    I trust in myself finding out what is best for me.

    What do you think?

  20.  #20Daria on February 10, 2013 at 3:14 pm

    Thank you Daria for bringing the Goddess wording to the blog and using it so much

  21.  #21Daria on February 10, 2013 at 3:15 pm

    And popularizing it hehe

    Yay Goddess life

  22.  #22k2012 on February 10, 2013 at 3:16 pm

    Luzydel, the first option the doctor suggested is hysterectomy? He is crazy? That should be a last resort. I see u are getting good advice there. I remember when I had them, I can’t even remember what a lady who specialized in natural stuff gave me. The fibroids caused my period to come heavy for days and I got something to stop the bleeding. My period wouldn’t come fpr a couple of months and then it came back. I removed them twice.

  23.  #23Luzydel on February 10, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    Im going to do Vitex; DIM and Serrapetase again. My fibroid was tiny when I was doing this. Also I have low Vt. D; I wonder if I have some hormonal imbalance that is causing all this…

    The Dr. is a new Dr. SInce My insurance took the others out of network. Anyway, we will see how things go…

  24.  #24Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm


  25.  #25Ulii on February 10, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Love you Dominique! And you look so beautiful on the picture too! 🙂

  26.  #26Ulii on February 10, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    @ 8 Memulo

    I believe it was a cool thing to do. Taking care of yourself when the man is not giving you the relationship you want. I feel glad to see you are noticing this.

  27.  #27Ulii on February 10, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    Hysterectomy really sounds barbaric. I hope some milder remedies will help. Sending healing vibes to you!

  28.  #28Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    Thank you Ulii. It still hurts to think what if he thought that I had plan B and didn’t care enough.

  29.  #29Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    My cd called to ask my street address. Last year with dumbcd it meant I was getting roses. Am I doomed to mess up exactly what I want most?

    I told my cd about my bfast struggles. He thanked me for sharing how I feel with him and said that next time I should just tell him if I want him to bring groceries or go out.

  30.  #30Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    He says I am very sweet. If he knew I am still pining for ‘last year’s snow’ so to speak he’d stop saying this I am sure:)

  31.  #31Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    He is probably the most attentive lover I ever had. He cares how I feel so much. He really enjoys my body and he tries to please me as much as he possibly can, on his own initiative. But it makes it worse for me because I miss the other one.

  32.  #32k2012 on February 10, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Indigo, 709 from the previous thread.”There is nothing wrong with keeping him as a friend, especially if you are getting enjoyment out of your exchanges. I just wouldn’t expect too much from him and I wouldn’t give too much. Thanks for that advice Indigo. That’s exactly what I plan to do as I said before. Funny how men can say words and then the actions don’t match up. HE was the one who asked me for a relationship. Anyway, I am yet to start circular dating because of 2 main reasons- 1. My job leaves me totally exhausted. Right now I am working in between chatting on here and 2. Some of my good friends are married and u find that married friends really don’t have time to go with u. One friend of mine who is single lives too far away from me and even if she lived near, every time I make plans for socializing for eg. Inviting her to my house or linking up on a holiday weekend, she has some excuse. Seems she only wants to talk on the phone. Another friend of mine lives with her boyfriend. We decided we are going to go out later this week when we are off from work. We have planning that for the longest while but we are super busy.

  33.  #33Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    k2012, can you not go out alone? I used to do it all the time

  34.  #34Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Even to a coffee shop, with a book or without. or a restaurant for lunch

  35.  #35k2012 on February 10, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    When u do that Memulo, do u feel weird? I once went to an all inclusive by myself and enjoyed it tremendously. I remember I was supposed to travel that year but changed my mind as the air fares were too high. In fact, I got my visa late and by the time I was ready for booking, the air fares were riduculous. I decided that under no circumstances I am staying at home the entire summer. I was off from work for the summer. So I booked into an all inclusive for 2 nights. I didn’t care it was me alone. I didn’t feel strange at all. When I was leaving, friends came to pick me up and we went out after that. I don’t know if I can muster up the courage to go out again by myself to a hang out spot. Not sure.

  36.  #36Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    K2012, I don’t feel weird going out by myself. There are many ways you can do it – if just for lunch you can bring a book or a paper, or just do nothing and smile to people around. For the evening there are some social events, parties, you could look into these if you like. There will be many people who come alone to these events or you can always meet girls, even if they come as a group and talk to them.

  37.  #37Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Another option is to go watch movies by yourself – done that many times too.

  38.  #38Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 8:06 pm

    I’ve been to musical concerts or dance shows by myself too many times:) if there is something that I want to see and no one else is interested, I just go.

  39.  #39Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    I changed countries a few times in my life and when you are at a new place you don’t know anyone but still want to enjoy yourself, so you do it alone.

  40.  #40Femininewoman on February 10, 2013 at 8:09 pm

    K2012 I believe where you are there should be pantomime and a lot of stage shows. Those are things I used to do and it holds so much possibility of meeting new people. Even cricket matches.

  41.  #41Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    Anyone knows, say if my cd will send me flowers and take me out for dinner for Vday, am I expected to give him a gift?

  42.  #42Dominique on February 10, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    I’m sorry, I’m just all kinds of discombobulated tonight. This is the proper link here –


  43.  #43Femininewoman on February 10, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    Memulo why are you ruminating about a gift, didn’t you say you already bought one?

  44.  #44Memulo on February 10, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    FW, yes, I bought 2;) wondering if it’s a common thing to do.

  45.  #45sha-sha on February 10, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Congratulations Dominique

  46.  #46k2012 on February 10, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    oh yes Pantomime is going on now for true where I am. yes cricket matches too but I dont like cricket. but a lot of men would be there too. FW, your nationality is the same as mine nuh or you have friends of my nationality? Going to the movies and social events by yourself is a good idea. There is a nice place that my friend and I want to go. If she cant come, and my sister is available, i will ask her if she wants to go. If she cant come, I am going by myself. I remember a long time ago, i went to the movies by myself. Ages ago, in fact. Thanks girls for your suggestions.

  47.  #47Femininewoman on February 10, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    Whether it is or isn’t, it is about what feels good for you to do. It is not a debt you are repaying. If you feel worthy of his gift w

  48.  #48Femininewoman on February 10, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    why not just accept it with grace

  49.  #49Femininewoman on February 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    Same. I used to love going to crciket matches. Yes, it amplifies your attraction factor with all time men around. There are some many small theatres with stage shows also I used to enjoy.

  50.  #50k2012 on February 10, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    ok. a play is also good to go too, FW. Can you imagine if some company out here got Rori to come out here, and do a presentation on relationships, the place would be overflowing. If someone could get her and Christian Carter to come, it would be great. I will soon be buying the tools, I have to activate my card now that i received a week ago and the first thing I am going to buy is the e-book. FW, I notice your posts are deep. You sound like a psychologist. You know what this week is a public holiday so I will be off from work so it will be good time to go somewhere. Havent heard from overseas cd. I said good morning to him while I was in church. Heard nothing. so of course, I wont say anything more until I hear from him. I have to ask hairdresser something when i call her tomorrow. She said that overseas cd was just like disappearing ex, but i have to ask her specifically if she had picked that up from the Holy spirit or its because the two mens’ birthday are close which is why she says so. I have to ask her. Cause one cannot use astrology in christianity. As a matter of fact, not because two men have similar situations means that they are the same. My sister’s present boyfriend and her previous boyfriend have similar situations and they are certainly not the same. they are oh so different. Also her ex-husband and her present boyfriend have similar situations too but they are not the same. so hairdresser may be wrong there, I know she means well but I am going to ask her to make sure. I am going to ask her to forget for a while that overseas cd doesnt like to talk on the phone as that is another matter by itself. I am amazed that i lost my attraction for him, can u imagine. But lets face it, a guy who told you he wants a relationship doesnt call only wants to talk by messaging. Wouldnt u get bored after a time? after telling him 3 or 4 times that u want him to call, cause you are tired of messaging. u must lose interest after a time.

  51.  #51Heart on February 10, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Congratulations Dominique!

    I feel grateful for the chocolates a friend gave me…
    I feel thankful for good music
    I feel thankful for Coffee <3

    In a good mood today…Went out with friends…good conversation…wine…and then we went dancing…
    I'm letting my boy take care of my girl and it's working..
    I believe I really just need to focus on myself & taking care of me.

  52.  #52Vi on February 11, 2013 at 3:40 am

    I feel very thankful to the Universe that me, my relatives and friends are healthy. It feels like peace in my heart.
    I feel very thankful that there is EFT technique. I did it today and I felt like I am taking great care of myself. I felt supported and more in balance.
    I feel very thankful for a latte I buy myself every day, today including. I feel cared for and I feel warm and safe while I am drinking it.
    I feel very thankful to find a great wax specialist for myself. I feel so amazed by how gentle and fast she works. I feel happy and cheerful visiting the salon.
    I feel very thankful to have my favorite embroidered red Miu Miu skirt dry cleaned. I feel flirty and soft and flow-y even thinking of it. I feel happy they also saved my favorite navy blue cashmere sweater that started to unknit. I feel so very much at ease and relaxed when I wear it. At these moments I feel confident in my ability to take great care of me. I feel encouraged to take even better care of me.
    I feel grateful to me for uncovering the pattern of my early communication with mom, which I stuck to in my relationships with men when we got exclusive and that didn’t feel good. I feel more relaxed and more at ease and my breath feels more flowy now and I feel more confident in my ability to shift it if I want to..
    I feel grateful to Dominique for this tool because I feel my mood’s elevated as I am finishing this line.
    And I feel thankful to me for correcting i into capital letters if I need to, because it makes me feel honored and important.

  53.  #53Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 4:00 am

    k2012 – 9 – You are so cute. We are really good friends actually, and our birthdays are one day apart. Maybe this is why we resemble each other. 🙂


  54.  #54Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 4:10 am

    Thank you Smile for alerting me to my embarrassing mistake, blush and sigh. 🙁

    And thank you all the love and the lovely well wishes.

    The links in the post are now disabled and hopefully will be up and linking you to the proper page soon.

    In the meantime, the link is here again –

    I feel so thankful having the opportunity to share in a piece of your lives.

    Sending love.


  55.  #55Scared on February 11, 2013 at 4:26 am

    I have a question and I feel scared to even ask. How/when/ do I even have to tell a guy about an std? I say do I even have to because its an HPV strain. HPV has a very high prevalence (If a college woman has at least one different partner per year for four years, the probability that she will leave college with an HPV infection is greater than 85%), sometimes people can have it and have no symptoms, and experts don’t know if it goes away or if you have it forever. I don’t even know if I still have it. Razor bumps and ingrown hairs scare me now. I feel extremely exposed and embarrassed. I only had one partner in college and a couple after….it only takes one really. So what do I do? I feel like finding a good man is hard enough without a scarlet letter, now who will want me?

  56.  #56S Ryan on February 11, 2013 at 4:46 am


    I met someone online and we had been seeing each other for about 7 months. It was a long distance relationship, so it was work, but worth it. In November, he came to see me and we spent three wonderful days together. He was telling me that he had to move out of his rental home because his landord was going to let his sister live there. He was torn because he wanted to move closer to me, but he has two daughters and he didn’t want to leave them so he asked if I would stay with him if he were to buy a home where he lived presently and of course I said that I would because in a year my son graduates high school so if things continue to work out for us, I could consider moving closer to him at that time. We live about 4.5 hours away from each other so I thought that the relationship was worth fighting for. After he left my place, he stopped communicating as much, which really confused me cause we had such a great time together. Finally I asked him what was going on and he said that he didn’t know what to do because on one hand he wants to pack up and move closer to me with no hesitation but then he can’t because he needs to be close to his daughters. I said that I didn’t understand because I thought that we had discussed this and agreed that we would continue the long distance relationship for now since moving for either one of us is not an option. He didn’t respond…that was 2 months ago. Now I see that his profile is back on the dating website where we first met one another. I am completely heartbroke.So now I am wondering if I need to reach out to him to let him know that I still care about him and that I am still interested in him. Maybe he assumes that I have moved on so he doesn’t want to contact me. But then I struggle with, if he were still interested, wouldn’t he reach out to me. I don’t know what to do, but I am tired of being sad and heartbroken over this. I want to move on. I just don’t know how. Any advice you can give me would be appreciated.

    Thanks Rori

  57.  #57Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 5:08 am

    Vi – 55 – 🙂


  58.  #58Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 5:30 am

    And since there was no download link available for Day 1, here’s the
    instant download link to the Feelingization meditation by Arielle Ford

    >>> Click this link and meditation 1 will start downloading automatically

  59.  #59Beloved on February 11, 2013 at 5:38 am


    I feel grateful for Vi feeling thankful for her latte.
    I have been feeling guilty about mine.
    I will stop feeling guilty and start appreciating and feeling good about the ways I find comfort 😀

  60.  #60Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 5:39 am

  61.  #61Linda on February 11, 2013 at 6:02 am

    I love the tips in this from Dominique !

    Goes right in line with where my heart is leading me. I spend too much time with a self centered negative man before and it did affect me negatively in so many ways.

    A thankfulness journal and adding in how you feel about that individual thing is fantastic. Practical hands on can do suggestion to help me practice my openness and receiving. I want to thankfulness and expressing feeling messages to be like breathing. 🙂


    As for my decision to be done seeing racecardriverCD..
    I feel it was the correct thing to do for me.I felt I was compromised. The mindset I had while dating several men and the three in my regular rotation all summer and fall thru January this year is still with me even though I am only seeing FavoriteCD right now. Dating like that truely did facilitate so much health in my mind, body and spirit. There has been such a shift in me.

    FavoriteCD is consistently the dearest man. He embodies pretty much everything I am be looking for in a partner. The more time we spend together the more I realize it on sooo many levels. I could fall in love with this man and see myself with him content and purring for a very very long long time.

  62.  #62Tam on February 11, 2013 at 6:09 am

    Hm. I am wondering whether to reply to MrP, but really, I do not feel inspired to…so maybe no.

    I met with Curly and he was being very cute. He apologized profusely for our misunderstanding and said that I took it all too personally. I said yes, but I guess that is what we do as humans when someone tries to ridicule us because he feels threatened (which is what happened…this other guy).
    He said he felt terrible when he saw me walk off and being upset, and when he started chasing me with the car and I just walked on, he felt even worse because it was dark and I was walking alone bla bla.

    Ok – fair enough. He is not at all my forever man, and oh more issues, he now has female housemates that call him up and tell him how their day was…no sex but obviously emotional relationships with other women. That’s not for me, he is not for me… but we had some fun…I am considering to keep seeing him every now and then, for fun and nothing else. I kinda hinted at that subtlely and he seems fine with it, in fact, elated. He said that he would like the whole pie of Tam, but failing that, he would rather have a slice of it than nothing at all….

    And I am sick of being alone all the time. Really.
    And I am really not in love – at all.
    So, no harm.

  63.  #63Tam on February 11, 2013 at 6:14 am

    Curly asked me yesterday whether I wanted him to be my Valentine. Haha. I said ‘nah, I am going to be my own Valentine’….
    He laughed and said ‘oh, yeah, I should have known you’d say that!’

  64.  #64Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 6:35 am

    Today’s challenge: no leaning forward. No physical leaning forward specially. We’ll see…

  65.  #65Mercedes on February 11, 2013 at 6:36 am

    Dominique: I am sooooo happy for you!!! This is amazing work!! 🙂 YAY

    I think this part alone, even without all the other amazing teachings, is invaluable: “I will teach you how to become aware of and release tension in your being which has resulted from an accumulation of hurts and traumas you have sustained whether they be physical ones or emotional ones – this ALONE will give you a clarity about yourself and your surrounding world AND your relationship like nothing else”

    And yes…we are great friends (of which I am soooo grateful!!!) and tend to agree on advice nearly every time. As we’ve discussed before though…our delivery can be quite different. 😉

    Much Love,

  66.  #66Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 6:46 am

    Lizka with regard to leaning forward, I find when I pay attention to my energy and consciously practice notice when my energy is leaning forward and practice the Letting Go tool, it is a lot easier to stop the physical leaning forward. I believe the inner work is the best place to begin as it shows up on the outside.

  67.  #67Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 7:29 am

    Yaay, Dominique! You are wonderful.

    In other news, this really, really helped me recently:

    I love this post…

  68.  #68Linda on February 11, 2013 at 7:31 am

    FavoriteCD keeps me on my receiving toes. He will rarely let me “do”. I feel so full and my soul so fed this morning after spending relaxed extended time with him this week end. My words feel sp small in comparison to how I feel. I have never in my life been with such a genuinely giving man. My little dog who is usually unaccepting and aloof with men… turns into a pile of snuggle putty next to him. teehee

    He asked me weeks ago to be his valentine and inquired what I would like to do? Honestly, I just want to stay at in, eat at home. Cooking together is delightfully fun.

  69.  #69Indigo on February 11, 2013 at 8:10 am

    Thank you Tam (from previous thread). X

  70.  #70Lori on February 11, 2013 at 8:12 am

    I have Dominique’s program. It’s awesome. I listen to it in the evening because it relaxes me. 🙂

  71.  #71Lori on February 11, 2013 at 8:22 am

    Good morning ladies, I haven’t been on the blog much lately. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking. I was supposed to see K after business tomorrow night. Business was canceled for tomorrow so I told K with the hopes that he would still want to meet in the evening. Before I could even say anything, he told me that he wasn’t sure he could have met up anyway as he was thinking about going to CA to see his daughter. (he had already told me we would get together). I was crushed. Furthermore, he received a call so we couldn’t even discuss it. I spent most of the day on Friday crying. I tried to discuss it with him on Saturday morning but his daughter came in to town unexpectedly to see him so he said he would call me later. By Saturday evening, I had pretty much decided I was stepping way back and had an email written and saved to send, with Dominique’s help.

    He tried to call me early yesterday morning. I didn’t answer because I just didn’t feel like talking to him. My emotions were too raw. I waited all day to be sure that I wanted to send the email. I did. This is what I sent.

    It’s becoming increasingly painful for me to continue on as we have been. My feelings are too much, and it feels too difficult. I don’t feel wanted. I don’t want to feel this way with you. I don’t want to carry on like this anymore. I want some time and some space. Please.”

    If he tries to get a hold of me, fine. If he doesn’t, fine. I’m doing this for me as his twice a week phone calls with no other contact aren’t enough for me. I’ve been on a rollercoaster and it’s time I got off.

  72.  #72Starla on February 11, 2013 at 8:56 am

    Memulo, from the other thread….

    When I say you’re not on your own side, I don’t mean not to let him lead. Absolutely let him. BUT WHEN IT’S MAKING YOU MISERABLE AND UNHAPPY AND ICKED OUT, YOU’RE TRYING TO BEND AND CONTORT YOURSELF TO PLEASE HIM INSTEAD OF SPEAKING UP FOR YOURSELF. I feel very disturbed by it.

  73.  #73Indigo on February 11, 2013 at 9:06 am


  74.  #74Lori on February 11, 2013 at 9:08 am

    Thanks Indigo, I cried a little this morning but am pulling up my big girl panties. lol. I know I will be okay. I’m going to focus on me.

  75.  #75April Rose on February 11, 2013 at 9:14 am

    Linda re.68

    I feel delighted for you. And I feel excited and encouraged to hear there are giving men like this in the world.
    It reinforces my resolve not to settle for less.

  76.  #76Starla on February 11, 2013 at 9:18 am

    This is a long post, but if some ladies actually read it, I will feel really good knowing that I was able to share and vent.

    I had the most eye-opening weekend. I am still processing it.

    I took QZ out for a night of appreciation. And did he ever appreciate it! It brought tears to his eyes. I’m not sure anyone has ever just insisted on making something all about him, and if they did, he probably resisted and they gave up.

    And as I was DELIBERATELY overfunctioning, I was unapologetic about it and not worried about if it was going to ruin his feelings for me or our relationship. I took it to an extreme and even made him a crown out of construction paper. It was a lot of fun and he jokingly ‘decreed’ things like a king all night.

    This is where everything gets interesting. Because I had a designated outlet, in the form of a night just for him, in place for my overfunctioning energy, I had really filled up my ‘quota’ on that energy. And while I was otherwise acting as I normally would, I was able to feel just how much of that is a whole lot of overfunctioning. I mean LOADS OF OVERFUNCTIONING from me in our dynamic (and actually, from him too in a way… but that is something I will ‘worry about’ another time).

    The kind of overfunctioning I’m talking about is following up a lot of things I say or do to make sure he isn’t displeased. Noticing a look on his face or some body language on him and asking him if everything’s okay. Sometimes everything’s not okay when I ask. Sometimes there is something there he needs to say. Often I get excited or bold about a desire I have, and if he doesn’t show a lot of enthusiasm, I will check in with him to see if it’s okay, and even revoke my enthusiasm if he doesn’t seem to be on the same page as me.

    In short, I’m coddling him. And it’s driving me f*cking nuts now that I realize I’m doing it.

    Later that night, I started to fall asleep. I kicked him out for the night, as we discussed I might do. It was a little abrupt on my part… I was tired. But he started pouting a little bit. And acting like a child who doesn’t know how to speak up for himself but is obviously not getting a need met. He wasn’t bratty, but I even snapped at him “USE YOUR WORDS.” That’s when I knew something was off in the balance of relationship.

    He didn’t use his words. He pretended like he had nothing to say. I’m not stupid. He didn’t want to leave but he doesn’t feel comfortable speaking up for himself.

    He doesn’t know how, really. And he hasn’t been compelled to, because I have taken on the job of checking in on his emotional state and if he’s happy. And this is a little besides the point, but I see his mother and sister and best friend/roommate (who is a female) all treat him like how I have been. It’s like they’re terrified of him being unhappy. And I can see why. He doesn’t handle it very well, and has gotten used to other people tending to this. And he doesn’t even realize it!!!!! He actually believes that most people don’t care about his needs!!! WHAT A PUNK!!!!!!!!

    And on top of everything, when he broke up with me last year, it came sort of out of nowhere, because he had needs and things that were making him unhappy that I was unable/unwilling to GUESS and fuss over with him, and instead of voicing them specifically for himself, he BROKE IT OFF.

    And I keep telling him I worry about this happening again… that he’s so accomodating that I think it is just going to build resentment in him and cause problems in our relationship. And he tells me it’s no longer true and that he will speak up for himself. But he’s not speaking up for himself… and my gut tells me I might know him a little better than he knows himself in this particular case.

    haha. So you can see I started to feel resentful and turned off and scared. And I almost texted/called him the next day to tell him it was time for him to start taking responsibility for his own happiness and needs, and that I cannot trust a man who doesn’t. And that I’m sick of hearing him say that he is on top of it, because he’s actually not.

    But something about that felt very domineering, and also like I was just doing the thing I didn’t want to do anymore, which was take responsibility for his feelings and his needs by TELLING him to do it.

    I’ll finish up in a new comment.

  77.  #77Starla on February 11, 2013 at 9:28 am

    So I’m not going to call him up and “make him wrong” about how he’s not speaking up for himself, and how it’s turning me into a fussy mess who feels drained and not even sure of WHO this man is she is dating because he doesn’t advocate for himself when needed.

    ugh, i feel f*cking tired and like punching him. What’s ironic is he probably thinks he’s being an amazing boyfriend who never says or does anything to the contrary of what he thinks i want. he is a classic martyr, ladies. it’s gotta stop, holy shxt.

    But I have had a huge hand in this. And I am going to do a 180 now and stop altogether. No more following up the things I say or do or suggest to make sure he’s not offended or on the same page. No more taking the driver’s wheel for his sharing of his feelings. he is going to have to drive himself. And it’s going to trigger me and freak me out to just stay quiet. I am going to worry that he’s holding resentment inside and is just going to break up with me again because he doesn’t have the skill set or sense of entitlement required to speak up for himself.

    And I find myself talking a lot. Probably 90% more than he does. I am just rowing the boat in a lot of ways. I ramble on and on, which I love to do…. but basically I am sharing and sharing and sharing about myself and my life and my feelings, and he isn’t, unless I prompt him to. And this is ABSOLUTELY FINE. We are basically still in the courtship phase and I can see he is opening up more and more, and it will just take some time. But my taking on the role of managing this aspect of our relationship is not helping to bring that day closer. It’s actually creating a superficial cop-out.

  78.  #78Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 9:30 am

    At work they created a new manager role, more senior than the one I thought I was ready for. They didnt opened this last one and will open only the big one.

    I felt sad at first cause that means no opportunity for me for a while.

    Our big VP, when she announced it said “if someone thinks this role is due to them, you can call me or Lara.”

    A few monutes after he call, I told myself this is my NVs telling me I am not ready for a role like this. What if I was and I just didnt know it?

    So I’m going to send an email to my boss and this VP and tell them I am ready for this role and that it is made for me!

    Why not! I’m a siren and I can do anything!

    Oh i feel a bit anxious about it though…

    Send good vibes please sirens!

  79.  #79Starla on February 11, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Rather, I should say I do 90% of the talking in our relationship. When he does talk, I interrupt, cuz I get excited to relate to him, haha.

    And when he talks, it’s generally to tell me how much he adores me. When he leaves messages or texts, 99.5% of the time it’s to say something about how much he loves me. He never says ‘this thing just happened to me’ or ‘i was just thinking this about this random thing.’ Sometimes it’s like his only purpose is to adore me, and it’s making me like him LESS. Because I don’t just need an admirer. I need a human. A partner. Someone with feelings and wants and needs and gripes. And I am feeling a growing sense of mistrust for him and our relationship because I can’t FEEL who he really is a lot of the time. I know it in an abstract sense because we’ve known each other since we were kids, but from moment to moment, he doesn’t let me, or anyone really, in.

    I think he feels his purpose is to avoid being displeasing (read: selfish) to others. He feels like a failure and retreats into a cave when he isn’t able to do this (because he ultimately does tend to his needs… he just lets himself be ‘backed in a corner,’ so to speak).

  80.  #80Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Starla – I feel nervous for you. something is definitely going on with you.

    I just want to ask ( or maybe you could ask yourself)

    why give QZ a night of appreciation?
    Did he do something to merit that?
    Why isn’t your feeling happy, grateful, and responsive and your communicating those feelings enough to show appreciation to QZ?

    “Noticing a look on his face or some body language on him and asking him if everything’s okay. Sometimes everything’s not okay when I ask. Sometimes there is something there he needs to say…”

    Girl, why are you all up in your head worrying about him?

    when you notice “a look” on his face, how do YOU feel?

    why not communicate how YOU feel?

    maybe everything’s not okay with him, because he can feel how NOT OKAY everything is with you?

    remember, men fall in love by doing things for women, not by women doing things for them.

    he might’ve been feeling guilty or put off or weird or icky by all that you were doing for him, but didn’t want to say anything, because he didn’t want to make YOU feel bad?

    What do you think?

  81.  #81Starla on February 11, 2013 at 9:56 am

    So in conclusion, I can’t talk my way into this one by telling him i want him to act differently, if I am just going to keep up what I’ve been doing to really encourage the dynamic.

    From now on my goals are as follows:
    -talk less
    -ask him what he thinks to allow him to lead.
    -refrain from probing when he states a preference (which is usually just to do whatever he thinks i want, lol) by asking things like “are you sure?”
    -let it go when he ‘seems’ unhappy. remind myself that it’s his job to speak up for himself when he has a preference, not my job to see if his “no, i have no preference” actually means he does have a preference that is important to him.

    I have to lean back a whole lot more and let him come into it on his own. I have tried this before and it caused great confusion in him, and I chickened out and gave up after a day or so.

    Ladies, is there maybe something short and sweet and nonblamey i could say to him so he knows that I’m not just turning cold and hateful on him? In the past when I didn’t coddle him when he seemed unhappy, he interpreted it as my not wanting to because I wasn’t interested in his feelings or thoughts. For example, on Saturday night I wanted him to leave my place so I could go to bed, and I could tell he didn’t like it, but I stopped myself from seeing if that was “ok” with him to give him the chance to say he’d rather stay. I can tell he took it to mean that he had better not “cause problems” for me because I made it clear what I want.

    I need him to step up his presence in the relationship. I feel like he is a holograph and I am pedaling a bicycle to keep him powered up. Like he is flickering and tenuous unless I constantly tend to it.

    Ugh, I am feeling so drained.

  82.  #82Starla on February 11, 2013 at 9:57 am

    80 lama, maybe you should read the rest of my comments:). i told ya it would be a long one!

  83.  #83MovingMagic on February 11, 2013 at 9:57 am

    I’ve been asked out for Thursday (Valentines Day) by two different men, & have a date with a 3rd tonight. I’m not doing the rowing with any of these men, & it feels amazing. *Sigh of relief.

  84.  #84Tam on February 11, 2013 at 10:00 am

    Starla, whoa. How about breathing? Inhale, exhale.
    And then focusing on yourself for a while, i e the rest of the day. And then re-evaluate when you’re home.
    There seems to be a lot of overfunctioning/over-analysing here. Do you believe you know this man better than he knows himself?
    Speaking from experience, for me that was a slippery road and it was not paved with success.
    I’d turn around…back to the road to myself and how I feel.

  85.  #85Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Starla re: comment #79 – again, I’ll ask, what is going on with YOU. whenever you are THINKING ABOUT HIM, you are NOT FEELING YOU.

    what if, instead of even communicating your feelings, you just felt them?

    maybe just sit in silence with QZ. Let yourself get to a place where YOU FEEL comfortable with the silence.

    When you truly feel comfortable with the silence, with YOURSELF, he then may feel comfortable to speak up about what HE IS THINKING/FEELING.

    Imagine if you were with a man who NEVER STOPPED TALKING. You had plenty to say, sure, but he never stopped talking long enough for you to have a chance to speak.

    In fact, you could tell his need to speak was SO DEEP, that you couldn’t dare speak, because YES, YOU CARE.

    Maybe when he senses that you’re AT PEACE and READY TO LISTEN, he might just open up.

    and then, do LISTEN.

    hope this makes sense…

  86.  #86Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:13 am

    hehe, it’s hard to keep up, Starla!

    If I were you, I would take some time to myself to really feel my feelings…

  87.  #87Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:16 am

    do you feel scared?
    do you feel invisible?
    do you feel unheard?
    do you feel shaky, trembly?
    do you feel angry?

    do you feel weepy, sad, imbalanced?
    do you feel too much?
    do you feel over-bearing?

    how do you feel, Starla?


  88.  #88Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Well I do feel a little scared and shaky – HERE. I just said I want to stop this and I hate how the dynamic has been laid… and I’m saying I didn’t notice until this weekend when I actually had a defined target for my overfunctioning (a date night for him) and was able to step back and see where I was in the habit of rowing the boat for us.

    I feel really unheard here, ladies. I’m saying I am changing this. That the thinkiness of it all is just killing me and I need it to stop.

    I don’t feel good being told to imagine how awful it feels to be with someone who never stopped talking, and that I should really knock that off, when I just SAID that is exactly what I intend to do.

    I’m being lectured for things I didn’t conclude. I know I wrote a lot but i get the feeling maybe not all my words were read.

    Now it’s my turn to encourage YOU LADIES to take a minute to consider how your rushing to give advice and your thoughts before you’ve even read all the details and conclusions, plays out in your personal lives and in your inner landscape. Maybe there’s a lesson here for you too.

    and i’ve had a day and a half to think about it… i don’t need to ‘spend another day seeing how i feel.’

  89.  #89Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Miss M – 66 – Thank you my friend. So lovely are your words.


  90.  #90Indigo on February 11, 2013 at 10:27 am


    Are you internet dating? That is a great way to meet guys, and you don’t need a friend to do it with you. Or joining an interest group, like a hiking club or taking up salsa dancing. Usually single people who are also there on their own. There must be some guys at church? Hanging out by the coffee cups is a great place to start up a conversation 🙂

  91.  #91MovingMagic on February 11, 2013 at 10:31 am

    ((Starla)) changing habits/walking new, & different paths can feel so triggering. I feel & can relate with you. I have total faith that you’ll find your balance in all of this.

  92.  #92Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:32 am

    I know I wrote a lot so let me be much clearer and more obvious about what I need!

    In short — I realized I’m overfunctioning with my man by reading his body language and facial expressions, both on their own and in response to me, because we’re in a loop where he doesn’t speak up for himself unless I prompt him (and sometimes even insist a few times). I also talk way too much, even though he swears he loves to hear it, I can feel the drainingness of it and like I’m using up energy that I shouldn’t be.

    So I am going to change this up by talking a lot less, listening more, and not reacting to his facial expressions and body language by fussing over if he’s okay. Our dynamic is very well established in this way, so my question is if/what I should say something to him to let him know i won’t be talking or fussing as much anymore, but it doesn’t mean i don’t want him to speak up for himself?

  93.  #93Indigo on February 11, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Hi Starla

    I read everything you wrote, and as a veteran of a 5 year marriage and another long relationship, I really do relate to what you are saying.

    I feel that your soul is experiencing real frustration here in this issue with QZ, and I know that feeling *oh so well*. When you just *know* you are picking up on something, ie. his unwillingness to express his needs, and you are at a loss as to what to *do* about it. Yet the concern won’t go away because it’s screaming at you so often when you’re around him.

    And it’s causing you to feel fear for your relationship, because this was a legitimate concern the last time, and somewhere inside you, you intuitively know that this is something which needs to be dealt with or it could cause problems.

    I’m not going to say I know the best way to handle this, except to maybe really sit with the concern for a day or two, and see if something else or a good way of handling it comes up. I don’t know that these things are necessarily easily solved… I think they are a result of authentic living. Just wanted to say that I *hear* you. X

  94.  #94Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:39 am

    Starla, sweetie, I didn’t say anything about it “feeling awful” to be with someone who never stopped talking. If he’s like a lot of guys I know, he may very well be thoroughly enjoying it!

    I hear you not happy with him not speaking up, but the thing is, a man can’t speak up if he isn’t given the opportunity to speak up…

  95.  #95Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:39 am

    you know, in general, i need some push back from him. i don’t feel very trusting of him because he is so eager to please me. i feel like it will lead to resentment on his part. i find myself being halfway domineering to him at times… almost like i want him to get mad and fight back, just so i KNOW he’s freaking capable of it and that I can trust him to advocate for himself so I don’t have to worry about us BOTH.

    For example, he texted last night to see if I was free friday and sunday. He’s done amazingly in making advance plans with me… i just love it. and I asked him “what of valentines day?” which is thursday. And I swear to you ladies, I was hoping he would text me back and say “actually i’d rather celebrate that on Friday, instead of driving 2 hours just to see you for an hour or so on a worknight.” But instead he said he would whisk me away on thursday night for a short while. And I can’t trust that it’s his true desire, or if he just interpreted my question as “you better not get this wrong, you f*ck up.”

    oiiiiiiiiiiiiii it is very confusing. i have myself the nicest man ever. who i fear is also a ticking time bomb, as he did blow up the relationship last time.

  96.  #96Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Starla – What is it you want to say? There’s a lot here, yet I’m not getting a clear sense about what you want to communicate to him. I hear that you want to change your behaviors, so just go ahead and do this. There’s no need to tell him this. About the words, are they needed? Try to get what you want to say down to a sentence or two, so we have something to work with. Sound doable?


  97.  #97MovingMagic on February 11, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Ahhh…Starla, could any of these fears be related to how the relationship was handled last time?

  98.  #98Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:42 am

    “I hear you not happy with him not speaking up, but the thing is, a man can’t speak up if he isn’t given the opportunity to speak up…”

    RIGHT. the whole point of everything I posted was to say in conclusion, i am going to talk less.

    holy shxt.

    i feel so frustrated. i’m not mad at you lama, i’m just triggered……. i’ve often felt in life like people will try to offer ‘corrective’ advice even when they’re being redundant, because they enjoy the feeling they get from it, not because they give a shxt about my situation beyond the gratification they get from giving advice that makes them feel useful or right.

  99.  #99Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:44 am

    97 moving magic

    yes, absolutely. he says things are different but i can tell they’re not. i’m not stupid and i do know him pretty well, and i know my gut is right here. it’s not ‘fixed’ at all. the pattern is exactly the same. but i am PART of the problem. i want to change my part before i go ‘correcting’ him.

  100.  #100Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Okay Starla you wrote 94 while I was writing, yet I don’t see anything here to communicate to him. I don’t think you need to announce to him what you plan on changing within yourself. Just do it, and see what unfolds. Be curious. Cross the word bridge when and if you need to.


  101.  #101Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:45 am

    what if you just said nothing, Starla?

  102.  #102Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:48 am

    aw, Starla, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to trigger you. I just feel a lot going on inside of you, and can relate to the whole “talking way more than he does” dynamic.


  103.  #103Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:50 am

    “it would feel good for me to talk less and listen more. it would also feel so good and relieving if i let go of my habit of kinda always fussing over if you’re okay and reading your expressions and body language, and just trusted you to speak up for yourself from this point forward. what do you think?”

  104.  #104Starla on February 11, 2013 at 10:52 am

    ohhh lama ((((((lama)))))))) it’s not your fault but it means a lot to me that you care, thank you:)

  105.  #105Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Starla, you are awesome!!! I feel all fuzzy and connected and understood. 🙂

  106.  #106Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Dominique/Lama 100-101

    I fear if I said nothing, he will intepret it as my way of putting up walls to keep him from saying anything to the contrary of what he thinks i want.

    seriously. hmm maybe i could mention that

    “it would feel good for me to talk less and listen more. it would also feel so good and relieving if i let go of my habit of kinda always fussing over if you’re okay and reading your expressions and body language, and just trusted you to speak up for yourself from this point forward. **it would feel really good to also be similarly given the trust that I will speak up for myself, too, so that you don’t stop yourself for my ‘benefit’**. what do you think”

    urgh, it’s getting pretty long.

    we need out of this dynamic. and i have major faith in us that it’s possible.

  107.  #107Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:12 am

    i don’t like adding in the part about him trusting me to speak up for myself, so that he doesn’t silence himself trying to read my mind. it makes it about him. i don’t want to do that. i am a big part of the problem and i want this to be about what i’m going to do differently now.

    ohhh it would feel so relaxing to just sit back and listen to him more, and to rarely have to make decisions about what to say or do based on his facial expressions and body language.

  108.  #108Indigo on February 11, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Lori 74

    I feel admiration for what you have said to K here, I felt touched by it, it sounded like it came from the heart. And I admire your strength. I think you are doing the right thing, and I’m sure you can feel that.

  109.  #109Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:17 am

    sorry ladies i got pretty uptight with all of you for a minute there, but i really appreciate all the help and support. really!

  110.  #110Ulii on February 11, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Ok… I have not been regulary on blog and probably continue to be irregurarly, but I just wanted to share this.

    Already 3 months now I have been dating (among others) Lawyer CD. I don´t remember if I got to mention him on the blog or not.

    It started out really slow, as I didn´t feel too interested nor didn´t feel big attraction at the beginning. He also had characteristics like being 14 years older than me, divorced and already having 2 kids of his own. There was a time I would have crossed him out of my list because of that. But the thing is, he made me feel good. Already from the beginning. So I just continued to accept his invites for dates (really nice ones they were), while being overwhelmed with emotion and having a crush on other more “hot” cd-s I was going out simultaneously, like really masculine MotoCD or really charming talker DeepVoice CD. They eventually weeded themselves out… Lawyer CD continued around… so fast foward to today, 3 months later:

    He just passed by my house in the middle of his working day because according to his words, he just needed to see me and give me a hug.

    This combined with his long mail yesterday, where he among other things told he feels that he is falling in love with me.. is starting to feel big.

    And also that he has made already in depth research about the possibilities to get married by church if he is already once been married by catholic church & divorced.. It seems in lutheran protestant church (where I am a member) it´s depending on the country and a concrete parish &it´s pastor to decide if a new marriage would be possible & that it is possible in the anglicanic church.

    I feel a tiny bit strange, but at the same time very good. I would have expected to feel overwhelmed if I get all this attention and notice I´m becoming really important to him. But in fact, I continue to feel good and relaxed around him & enjoying of receiving all this energy he has coming towards me. He says he is even “holding back” in attention a bit to not make me feel overwhelmed.

    And then I remember all these times I was suffering with whichever man I liked as he didn´t call, didn´t message or didn´t want to see me as often as I would like… In general terms, just didn´t give me the attention I needed. I though that is how it is and will be always, that my needs just somehow are bigger and I have to forever accept always feeling a bit of a lack. That men are not that way and the relationship is not so much in their interest as in mine.
    How silly I was!
    Now I just have it all and it really exists. And it feels good & easy and I don´t feel a lack of anything. I feel there is love poured all over me. 🙂

  111.  #111Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:22 am

    honestly, i can recall only one time in the past that he texted me about anything but his good feelings for me… it was too tell me he’s having a stressful day but that thoughts of me are getting him through it. it was like he doesn’t feel comfortable saying anything purely negative about anything, but not because of some ethic but because he’s worried it will cause problems or make people think he’s a whiner.

    i keep sensing and he has also told me that he often feels with people in general that he isn’t welcome to vent or talk about himself.

    but if we’re going to have a full, true relationship, he has to bring his full self to the table.

    i feel so sad and understanding of his feeling like his identity is less important than those around him, especially those he’s closest with. I am recovering from feeling that way my whole life. We were raised by shxtty parents, and it happens. But I also can’t fix that for him, even though he might let me try. i just shouldn’t.

  112.  #112Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:24 am

    haha, i’m doing it here too. i need to stop talking and let people respond to me here!!!

    haha my habit is HUGE!

  113.  #113Goddess Lily on February 11, 2013 at 11:24 am


    I followed you. That hologram comparison was so on point. I feel your exhaustion.

  114.  #114Vi on February 11, 2013 at 11:25 am

    YAY Lizka re 78! 🙂

  115.  #115Goddess Lily on February 11, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Lizka, you are my siren hero!

  116.  #116Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 11:26 am

    Ladies, I still feel guilty about telling SMC I couldn’t be friends with him via facebook. cowardly, no?

    I feel like I should’ve told him that back when he was all trying to talk to me when his gf was out of town.

    bleh, but that didn’t feel good to do either.

  117.  #117April Rose on February 11, 2013 at 11:27 am

    It must feel weird to not know if a man is speaking from his true desire or from his desire to please his woman.

    I’m not sure it matters which it is (if his true desire IS to please me).
    For me the mindf*ck comes when I am questioning his motive for wanting to please me.
    Is he acting from fear? That to me feels all kind of weird.

    I start to feel fearful when I think that he will resent doing things to please me.

    I am suffering the backlash of this. I have an angry man at home who has turned. He never used to speak up. One day he reached his breaking point, went into severe depression and sought counselling.
    His anger is evident, as he tells me how he is now ‘standing up for himself’ after feeling controlled by me for two years.

  118.  #118Goodheart on February 11, 2013 at 11:28 am

    “Babe I feel bad when I talk a lot & don’t listen so much. And when I try to read things into your facial expressions. I just want you to know that I want to change this & I’m working on it because it feels really important to me & to us.”

    Starla, I use something like this whenever there’s something I want to communicate to my fiance. I just try to keep it short & sincere.

    Sometimes I don’t say anything & just let my actions speak & other times I feel better letting him know.

  119.  #119Rebecca on February 11, 2013 at 11:29 am


    Some men that I know are incredibly self resilient. You wouldn’t know it to look at them, but it’s ALL going on inside. A friend of mine is like this and he likes to handle everything himself. I am sort of thinking the strong silent type. Is QZ like this?

  120.  #120Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:31 am

    Starla I believe it is excellent to read a person’s body language as most of communication is non-verbal. Also I do believe that men want us to use or intuition more and communicate from that. Having said that I will mention that I have read coaches suggesting to use “I notice that (you grabbed your head when I mentioned or you were clicking the pen when……………) and Rori’s magic words “Is there something I need to know?” If he doesn’t open up immediately you can let him know in your own words that whenever he is ready to talk you will be available to listen. I have used this technique with good results. I understand that they feel you get them when you can feel their emotional state without all the words. Many times they don’t have the words to express their feelings.

    Where I see any kind of error is the insistence, Rori called this the Inquisitor, I believe. Also the talk too much. She wrote a post about meeting a man where he is at “if he is bummed out you say oh cra, that sounds a bummer. I get it. I totally get how you’re feeling”. Meet him there and stay quiet. Don’t ask him to change anything. This is where the cleaning out the purse tool come in handy. She says don’t start a conversation and don’t ask him what went wrong. She says to just stay warm and happy. Don’t try to fix anything just live with the unpleasantness. Flow with the good times and bad.

  121.  #121Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 11:32 am

    the reason I feel guilty is because

    A. He was looking at me like he was extremely angry. this happened to be while I was laughing and talking with friends, and made me feel soooo guilty
    B. We ran SMACK DAB into each other at school. Like, walking up the stairs to enter the tiny doors at the same exact time. I felt sooooo awful. Nervous and like my heart and dropped down to the ground and like I was going to throw up…
    C. Class material lately has seemed to be dealing with issues of honesty and communication. and the examples given are just UNCANNY.

    I feel worried that he’s going to write me off for “cowardly character” or something.

    Don’t know why I’m still feeling this way…feels icky and sad and confusing…

  122.  #122Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:32 am

    As far as mistakes go, I remember Rori saying that they are part of the dance. You have to make them to learn. A great man will stay with you as you learn to change the steps together.

  123.  #123Rebecca on February 11, 2013 at 11:34 am


    One more point. It’s something I *try* and do but fail miserably! In my head I try and turn it into a sort of joke, like he wants to speak up but he’s more interested in thinking about what he’a going to have for his tea, or he’s got a sore foot, or his got an itchy on his bottom, or just something that’s really silly. That was it helps diffuse the intensity of it.

    I’m not sure if that makes sense. And, I myself, really really struggle to do it!

  124.  #124Violette on February 11, 2013 at 11:35 am

    Ulii, congratulations on experiencing a nice dynamic! He adores you because of what you’re giving off. You are powerful because you are a woman!

  125.  #125Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:36 am

    april rose, exactly! and i’m sorry you’re dealing w this now.

  126.  #126Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:36 am

    i feel so sad and understanding of his feeling like his identity is less important than those around him, especially those he’s closest with

    Starla reading this reminded me of Katie Hendricks video I watched. I am thinking a soft touch on the arm and a hhhhmmmm with your eyes closed like you are feeling this down to your toes could communicate that you get him, more than your words can.

  127.  #127Ulii on February 11, 2013 at 11:39 am

    Hey…someone knows until when this Rori’s special Vday offer is available (all the programs for price of 2)? Couldn´t really make it right now but I am really interested in this offer, so wonder if it would maybe last somemore time after Valentines day?

  128.  #128Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:41 am

    I believe Rori’s dance position, palms up are somewhat body languge cues to communicate to a man that you are open to his approach and influence.

  129.  #129April Rose on February 11, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Thank you Starla for writing your situation and thoughts. It is helping me to find clarity with mine.

    WM never used to disagree with me. Verbally, that is. He voted with his feet. I made it clear what I wanted and expected of him. He made noises of accord. But his actions said the opposite. I smelled defiance. I got angry, asking him “Why did you say you would do ….. if you had no intention of doing it?”

    I have looked at this pattern and conclude that, as the man, HE wants to have the ideas.

    Unfortunately, and according to Carol Allen’s compatibility report, the energy in the relationship flows from me to him. Which means I have the ideas first. I’m wanting things from him way before he has even thought of them. It’s like I am always waiting for him. If I approach him, he says “I was just about to come to you”. It feels maddening.

    I’m engaged in a mighty effort to hold my expectations back and allow him to show his love in his own way and his own time.

  130.  #130Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:44 am

    I got a huge email from Meet Your Sweet about body language that started with:-

    Habitually, we think that we derive meaning from WORDS.

    But ACTUALLY, studies have proven that we
    derive less than 9% of the meaning of any human
    interaction from what people say.

    The rest is inferred from the posture, placement, and positioning of our bodies.

    If you want to be attractive, more popular, and
    irresistibly sexy, then the easiest and fastest thing you can do to achieve that end is to PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR BODY LANGUAGE.

  131.  #131Violette on February 11, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Ahh, my post about D didn’t post! Annoying…

    I said that I feel clarity about our fight, in the future I would change the way I voiced my discomfort with his behavior at the party frankly by adding compliments on both ends, and really keep it about how I felt, even at the risk of being less than totally clear…
    Also I see that he was reacting badly to what I said, (even though I was a little blamey I said it all in feeling messages and frankly not that harshly…)he was punishing me. So in the future I wouldn’t try to find a way to let him resolve it…I’d just walk away and let him try to fix it or not.

    Anyway, I am breathing, thankful for the growth and RELEASING!

    I am happy to see him and talk to him next. We have plans for Valentines. It will be interesting to see how he behaves since our argument. I still like him and want to continue to date, but I am prepared to be ok no matter how he behaves.

    And I’m going to a comedy show tonight with a fun girlfriend and we’re going to flirt with everyone there, and look beautiful, and light up the place with our light!

  132.  #132Rebecca on February 11, 2013 at 11:46 am

    *or his got an itch on his bottom, or just something that’s really silly. That way it helps diffuse the intensity of it.

  133.  #133Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Bingo – 107 – Starla – added to a couple of concise sentences.


  134.  #134April Rose on February 11, 2013 at 11:47 am

    He has come forward and surprised me with his actions – yesterday an unexpected kiss. This morning a card!

    I had to make the space for him to come forward, and it involves me leaning back to the point of almost forgetting that he exists!

  135.  #135Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:47 am

    fw, it’s interesting about body language with me and him. we don’t actually believe in it on an intellectual level — we are seriously wordy individuals. he’s an author and a teacher and i am a linguist.

    but the body language thing is so key.

  136.  #136Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Talking about feet:-

    Hint: ankle-crossing is the bodily equivalent of biting your lip, or chewing on your fingernails: it makes you look like you’re bottling something up.


    Here’s an interesting fact about the language of the body: the further away from our faces a signal is being generated, the more likely it is to be true.

    This is because our faces, as our primary canvases for communication, are under our strictest control.

    It’s not that difficult for somebody to make their face convey emotions that they’re not really feeling: we smile when we’re actually embarrassed, or remain neutral when, actually, we want to cry.

    This degree of control gradually recedes the further down our bodies (away from our faces) we

    So someone can consciously relax their shoulders, and make themselves appear relaxed when they’re actually a ball of tension – but they’re less likely to be able to disguise the anxious tapping of their fingers against the tabletop, for example.

    Your feet, as the furthest away sign-makers of your entire body, are the most reliable indicators of sexual attraction that you can find.

    And the best part? The language of the feet is EASY TO READ.

    We use our feet like signposts to point towards what we want.

    So, for example, when you’re talking to somebody and you’re really in a rush to get going, you might be able to disguise this fact out of simple politeness by angling your torso towards them, smiling, and nodding when they speak.

    But what you probably don’t realize is that your feet are broadcasting your desire to hit the road, loud and clear: at least one foot will be pointing in the direction that you wish you were headed in.
    This rule is easy to adapt for social and romantic situations.

    Trying to figure out if someone’s really enjoying their conversation with you? Dart a quick glance at their feet. If his feet are pointing squarely at you, toes-on, then that shows distinct interest (especially if they don’t shift around).

    If, on the other hand, one or both feet are pointing away – or if he’s fidgeting around or crossing one ankle over the other – that indicates
    uncertainty or a desire to get away.

  137.  #137Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 11:53 am

    Starla – I remember Rori encouraging to just stop yourself. PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR MOUTH. I was shocked when I read that.

  138.  #138Ulii on February 11, 2013 at 11:57 am

    @ 78 Lizka

    Wowwow! You are my Siren-hero too! 🙂 Of course you are ready! Good vibes going your way!!!

  139.  #139Rebecca on February 11, 2013 at 11:58 am

    Ahhh, work today was so stressful..

    I’m sensing such a negative energy from one of my bosses.

    Every time I ask him anything he says he’ll get back to me and he never does. He can never give me a straight answer.

    He isn’t giving me hardly any work and when I complain he says things will pick up soon and to enjoy it because when it gets busy it will be mega busy.

    I’ve been working there 4 months now and I still haven’t had a consistent work flow and it’s demoralising and depressing. I can feel I feel low energy when I am in the office..

    I have tried to speak to other managers as well but they just refer me back to him.

    My main issue is I keep thinking is it me? Would someone else in my position handle this differently? Would they handle it better?

    Today he spent the best part of a meeting telling me about the various people who did my job before me and how none of them really fitted in. He made it sound like he didn’t want or try to help anybody fit in.

    Surely, it can’t just be a case of hiring the wrong man for the job. I don’t know why but my senses tell me to be very dubious/suspicious of what is going on…

    I feel like I can’t breathe at work. I feel like they are ALL spying on me and reporting back to each other. I also feel if I say one thing to one of them, then it gets back to the other.

    I feel paranoid – I feel like I am walking on eggs shells.

    I also think – please – I hope I’ve got this wrong and it’s just my NV’s.

    Sorry for the long post… just needed to vent it off my chest..

  140.  #140Starla on February 11, 2013 at 11:58 am

    fw 136 so interesting, but i had to stop reading, cuz it seemed like a manual for how i could better read his body language, which i need to knock off hahaha

  141.  #142Ulii on February 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    @ Starla

    I´m just in the middle of reading your processing on this thread, but it has already enormously helped me to realise so many things. I love how aware you are of all the subtle dynamics in your relationship. Thank you for sharing!!

  142.  #143Mel on February 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm


    Hugs…. I too was left feeling a bit fearful of silent resentment after my marriage. Like April Rose’s man (hugs to you too lady!) mine would agree to things, then leave me hanging. Or “go along with” something but be so unpleasant to be around whilst doing the thing he went along with. I became anxious to ask him to do anything, because either I was left in the uncomfortable position to have to ask again… or I would have to feel the discomfort of the quiet discontent bubbling below the surface. It became easier and felt better to just try to do things completely on my own, or to ask someone else. And waiting for him to “offer” felt just as frustrating. It became too exhausting to try to figure out if he “really” wanted to do something or not.

    At the beginning, with Mr A, he would offer to do something for me, I would ask “are you sure?” like a dozen times. When he was all… “what’s up with that?” I explained that I was feeling fearful of resentment brewing. But that I wanted to feel relaxed around this and just believe people say what they mean and do what they want. That it would feel soooo good not to have to worry about figuring it out or tiptoeing around because I could just trust them to kindly disagree or sweetly say no to me.

    He said that he only does what he wants to do and only offers what he’s willing to happily give. That felt great to hear.

    I also notice that with him, I hardly ever actually ASK for anything. i talk about my feelings and he’s just always in problem solver mode and happy to offer solutions.

    I don’t know if I was more resistant to my ex’s solutions (maybe we just weren’t well-matched that way… he didn’t really “get me”) or he just didn’t offer, but I believe the whole ASKING dynamic is what got the energy all out of whack. Like April Rose said, HE needed to have the ideas, but I moved too fast for him, or was impatient, or didn’t mesh with his “solutions.”

  143.  #144Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    I suspect the Love Forever class address the body language issue

  144.  #145Rori Raye on February 11, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    S Ryan – welcome, and so sorry for the confusion and pain here – men do what they want. He’s soft-soaping you. If he wanted to keep in touch, he would. Now it’s YOUR turn to keep moving forward!!! Get your profile back up online, start Circular Dating, and see what he does – if he calls you, etc…Love, Rori

  145.  #146Ulii on February 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    @ 125 Violette

    Thank you!!! 🙂

  146.  #147Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Yayy Ulii!!!!!

  147.  #148Rori Raye on February 11, 2013 at 12:14 pm

    Scared – Please believe me here, and believe your own statistics. HPV is not incurable, and is not life-threatening if you catch it early, and can be contracted through all kinds of skin-to-skin contact that a condom doesn’t cover. So – most women with an active sex life might have it. What’s important here is to get and stay as healthy as you can – and there are all kinds of herbal and holistic remedies for this that have track records – go search on the web and find a naturopathic doctor with a track record for it. There are all kinds of ONLINE DATING SITES! for people with all kinds of STDs and other health issues – diabetics, people with HIV, I know because I just googled them for you.

    You can tell a man before you have sex with him, because you need to have a discussion about what sex “means” anyway, and you need to ask him if HE has any STDs, too! Love, Rori

  148.  #149Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    Mel, thanks:) I don’t actually ask for anything. It’s like… when we’re trying to figure things out together, or he’s asking ME what i think.

    and also, just in response to me voicing an opinion on something philosophical or political… if his body language doesn’t seem ‘pleased,’ i will go into this mode.

    a lot of it is all on me. i am terrified of displeasing people.

  149.  #150Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    wow FW are all these videos free?

  150.  #151Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Yes I got them in an email and I watched them. They are not long.

  151.  #152Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    thank you:)

  152.  #153Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    ok well i did just text him that i want to hear about him and his day and to even hear him vent sometimes. that it would feel so good and connecting to hear about the non-couple stuff, like i could connect to him as a human and not just his feelings for me. i’m paraphrasing but you get the idea, ladies.

    that was easy. i figured i’d at least get the easy/harmless one out of the way. i’m still undecided about if/what to say about my talking and reacting less.

  153.  #154Shar Lean Way Back on February 11, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    Mel, Love it.

  154.  #155Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    ooh i am really proud of myself.

    and i am remembering again that having faith in the big picture and going slow to get there really work great, especially for me and him.

    like how i knew there would be plenty of time for us to discuss the ‘bad’ stuff about our break up, instead of urgently hitting him over the head with it. i practiced patience knowing the time would come, and it did. and it came in a beautiful way.

    i feel sad that he is more skilled at apologizing than he is at standing up for himself. just sad for him. i love him and i want better for him.

  155.  #156Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    This one specifically speaks to using how another is taking in communication, whole body inclusion and being influenced by how the person “groks”. How are they taking this in:- facial expression, change in posture. She describes it as a game of tennis.

  156.  #157Ulii on February 11, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    @ Femininewoman

    Thank you!!!! 🙂

  157.  #158Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    FW always comes through with da resources!

  158.  #159Starla on February 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    i love this situation i’m having, though. it’s forcing me to look at parts of myself that i was mostly unaware of. and i love that i do have room to grow in this relationship… qz affords that to me and in the case of affording me room to grow, i KNOW he does it because it’s his true desire.

    Aww, it might help me to focus on some of the things he does that I do feel for a fact are the result of his true desire.

    And once he spoke up because i wouldn’t let him get a word in edge wise when we were ‘fighting’ about something. that was good!

    he just doesn’t speak up until he has that “gonna explode’ feeling. but this is a good start!!! better to speak up when you’re going to explode than not at all!

  159.  #160Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    oh man, I just had this horrible thought. what if SMC was trying to talk to me over break because he realized that he missed me and was thinking about breaking up with his gf?

    but I was so closed off and scared and angry and assuming, and then I wrote him that stupid fb message, and then he was just like “forget it.”

    and THAT’s why he got so angry?


    someone please help/offer insight.

    I feel like a crazy person.

    I feel scared, sad, angry, and confused.

    and I miss him…

  160.  #161Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    and now I feel like I have “to wait.” I even felt like he might’ve wanted to talk to me the other night, but I just had all these fears and assumptions in my head, and walked away…

    I feel really scared and sad and like beating myself up…

    but shouldn’t he end one relationship before he begins another?

    but where’s the security in that?

    there is none.

    it’s scary and brave and risky.

  161.  #162Starla on February 11, 2013 at 1:10 pm


  162.  #163Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    seriously though, if he really cared, wouldn’t he end the one relationship first?

    I feel lousy, second-rate, and not chosen.

    and I feel lousy because while I would like to CD, I have no idea HOW.

    Men flirt with me all the time, but never ask me out.
    I have walls. I know I have walls.

    I ran SMACk DAB into Mr. Stares Me Down. It didn’t feel good. He was looking at me with a million expectations. I can literally FEEL THEM. “Come talk to me. Come flirt with me.” I feel like that what’s he’s always saying without saying it.


    I feel embarrassed and pouty and full of expectations.

    I feel stuck.

  163.  #164Heart on February 11, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    Iama…can I make a suggestion…

  164.  #165Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    sure, Heart, but by your tentativeness, I have a feeling it’s going to trigger me majorly. ha. go for it…

  165.  #166Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    at least I’ve finally realized i have abandonment issues. and it could just be from something as my Dad being away for a long time when I was little, and never knowing when he would be back, for how long, and feeling scared and unsafe when he would leave…

  166.  #167Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    I feel really sad and embarrassed…

  167.  #168Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    I feel stupid because I feel like none of this should even be a big deal…what is wrong with me?

  168.  #169Tereana on February 11, 2013 at 1:40 pm

    So…hello sirens!!

    As usual, I’ve popped back on to “unload,” and to read random posts that speak toe in unexpected ways. I always love that! 🙂

    And I love that Dominique has written a Rori blog post. Yay!

    So, last night, I had a very interesting and un-planned-for experience. It’s a little complicated to explain. But basically, I was with a guy friend, who I knew was attracted to me, and he came into me – playfully, but strong. I honestly believe he didn’t do anything to hurt me intentionally, but it triggered me, big time.

    Here is where I succeeded – big time, in my book.

    When it got too much for me, I got up and went into the bathroom to take some deep breaths & be alone. My friend was concerned and asked if I was okay, and I just took my time.

    When I came out, he wanted to make conversation about what happened, but I didn’t want to talk. I honored my feelings. When he asked how I felt, I didn’t say anything, but I say there and I FELT what I felt. I let it come up and through me, and I didn’t stifle the strange cries, or even hide my face. And then when I spoke, I felt a deep, primal anger, and I didn’t hide that, either.

    He got it.

    And, to his credit, he didn’t “react” to my stuff, or make light of anything, or get involved in the feeling. He DID let me know that he was sorry about what happened, he cared about how I felt, and he still wanted to be my friend.

    Afterward, I laughed, only because the release of anger felt SO GREAT!! Lol. I swear, that’s been pent up in there forever, and it felt amazing to let it out, purely, authentically. I feel great, actually. But I haven’t gotten to a point where I feel comfortable talking to him yet.

    He called and texted me today to see if I am ok. I don’t know what to tell him. I feel better right now just not responding, even though I don’t want to “punish” him. But this is about me, and how I feel. If or when I feel comfortable, I might send him a feeling message. But I really think I’m going to need about a week before I’ll be able to sit down and have a conversation about it. And I feel good about giving myself the time I need to be ok. He’ll be fine. He doesn’t need me to “take care” of his thoughts.

    What I need to do right now is take amazing loving care of Me..,

  169.  #170Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    wow, Tereana. I feel moved.

  170.  #171Heart on February 11, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    Iama – stop flirting with them…that is the stares etc…Notice yoi have a lot of the same dynamic going on with a few guys. Maybe your flirting style attracts the same kind of attention.

    There is a high probability that they are just toying with you and enjoying the ego stroke of your attention.
    I’m pretty sure…from their point of view…there is a lot of staring coming from your end as well. Else how would you know they are looking at you. From Stares-me-down point of view you might be staring him down.

    If you Show up Differently…you will attract a different kind of attention. Chances are a more meaningful one.

  171.  #172Starla on February 11, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    QZ hasn’t texted me back, which has me on edge. i want to follow up with another text, as i am interpreting his silence to mean he’s displeased with what i said.


  172.  #173Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    @171 Heart – wow, thanks Heart! I actually feel really good/relieved reading that.

    Now I just have to figure out how to show up differently…

  173.  #174Heart on February 11, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    Starla…are you sure text message is the way to go?

  174.  #175Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    I’ve made a point to stop staring at SMC, and it feels like he is staring less, so there’s some proof right there…

  175.  #176Iamabutterfly on February 11, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    “There is a high probability that they are just toying with you and enjoying the ego stroke of your attention.”

    I’ve had that suspicion. Not about Mr. Stares Me Down, but about other guys.

    I feel really sad about that.

    and angry, in a sad/angry kind of way…

  176.  #177Starla on February 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    174 heart

    good question! i think so. a text about his texts, hehe

  177.  #178Lori on February 11, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Indigo 108, thank you. It took a lot for me to send that email to him. I do feel it was right for me. I had tried to talk to him, it wasn’t happening. My heart hurts but I know it will get better. If he ever does come around, he will have to work very hard. I am CDing and have good prospects. I’m high value and I know it.

  178.  #179Heart on February 11, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Iama – not saying that it’s true…Just putting it out there to help you be more discerning…

    It could be any number of things…I don’t want you to feel angry/sad…:(

  179.  #180Starla on February 11, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Lori, I am relieved for you. Not because he is a bad guy, but because you are on your own side and it shows:).

    Of course, ideally we would just do the Rori Raye 3rd way and not cut a man out entirely, but what you’re doing here for yourself is the next best alternative, i think!

  180.  #181Lori on February 11, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    Starla 180, thank you. I think so too. I was leaning back and letting him come forward. It felt painful at times to me. Especially when I would look forward to seeing him and he would back out. Now, I’m pulling back for me. It willbe on my terms. I’m not cutting him out but I am taking my space and setting boundaries. I don’t think I’ve left any room for doubt about how I feel.

  181.  #182Starla on February 11, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    well now that i think of it rori, the 3rd way is not for when he’s broken up with us. i think then rori encourages that we express our disappointment, accept their decision, and move on with our lives. She mentions that we can say we’d feel open to hearing from them if they change their minds, if you’re not already seeing someone.

    i think you’re doing so good, lori! and if you stick to it, and don’t contact him for ANY reason, you might find that man comes back!

  182.  #183Starla on February 11, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    *lori, not rori. hehe

  183.  #184Dominique on February 11, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    Tereana – 169 – So YAY YOU!! how awesome.

    And thank you though I have written a couple of other posts for Rori before though it’s been awhile.


  184.  #185Lori on February 11, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    Haha Starla, I expressed my disappointment to him when he said he didn’t want to be in a relationship. That was six weeks ago. I leaned back and he still would call me twice a week. When I let him know when I was going to be in town, he would say he wanted to meet up but then he would be sick or this last time, said he wanted to go to CA to see his daughter. Ok fine, but could he not have left the next day? I feel like it was all about when it was convenient for him, never about me. This last time, I cried pretty much all day. Enough, I deserve better.

    Now, its all about me!

  185.  #186Starla on February 11, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Woohoo! I just crossed some things off my personal to do list.

    something else that’s been nagging at me when it comes to QZ is he’s not the most responsible when it comes to money and caring for himself. he is very responsible in many ways that many men do lack, and for that, I feel like the luckiest girl in the world. But there are some little things, like how long it takes him to get his car fixed when it’s broken, etc., that bug me about him.

    but it all boils down to looking at myself in the end. have i been putting off a car repair? yes. and he knows it, too! he was there when I told the mechanic I would be back to fix this thing.

    so many ‘flaws’ we find in others are really just a reflection of myself. he and i are just coming out of our american adolescence, figuring out fiscal and long term responsibility stuff for ourselves.

    It’s so easy to say “this man is not good enough for me because he doesn’t make fixing his car a priority… this is not good.” But in reality, neither do i. silly starla!

    other things i see as ‘flaws’ — he doesn’t exercise. Um, well neither do i! I was doing it every day, but I have since abandoned the daily rigorous exercise thing. Mirror!

    I should worry more about myself and my own flaws than focusing on his.

    I am realizing more and more that the problems we think we have with people’s personalities are really just a mirror of something inside of us that we don’t want to face.

  186.  #187Tam on February 11, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    I feel inspired by Lori to write to mrP also.
    I feel fed up of him testing the waters all the bloody time. I don’t want to see his name cropping up on my email/phone etc anymore.
    It will help me to move on.

  187.  #188Lori on February 11, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    Help!! K tried to call me. I let it go to voicemail. He said he just read my email and was calling me. He said that he thought he understood what I was saying and hoped I was okay. He ended with “I wanted to call you”.

    What the heck do I do? Do I call him back? Let it go?

  188.  #189Lori on February 11, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    I feel like crying. My heart pounded so hard when I realized he was calling.

  189.  #190Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    I was so busy at work that I completely forgot my challenge. I don’t know if I did lean foward or not, didn’t notice…

    So I’ll take the same challenge tomorerow again. No leaning forward, no physical leaning forward.

    Thanks FW by the way for your tip on no leaning forward:)

  190.  #191Starla on February 11, 2013 at 3:52 pm


    no, darling. you take that time and space you said you needed. remember when I was saying something about if you tell him you need space, you have to mean it and follow through with it, regardless of what he does to contact you?

    Otherwise, all you did was build a new drama for the two of you.

  191.  #192Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    I need to take an hour to write my letter to my boss and the VP for the senior manager role…

    NVs keep screaming I can’t do it. Grrrrrrr

    Go in the corner stupid NVs.

  192.  #193Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Oh Dominique, love the article 🙂 And you are so pretty on your pic.

    I remember when I was in a desastrous shape last year, you suggested to me your Thankfulness Journal. I did it for a few weeks and it definitely helped. I don’t write in it anymore but it’s still there next to my bed.

    I think I’ll start writing more in it. 🙂

  193.  #194Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 3:57 pm


  194.  #195Starla on February 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Lizka, you can do it!!!!! Imagine you were writing it for a friend of yours who is in your shoes, and you’re helping her write it and see how deserving she is.

  195.  #196Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Oh NVs know I can “write” it. I’ve always been a good writer and I can convince better by a letter than face to face.

    NVs are saying I can’t do this senior management role… Or that my boss will laugh at me… :S

  196.  #197Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    Anyway, I’m now takin a feet bath (will later give myself a pedicure) while I’m making the plan of my letter.

    It feels good and I really feel like a siren taking care of my feet and my career at the same time.

    (((((((((Lizka’s feet)))))))))

    ((((((((Lizka’s career)))))))

  197.  #198k2012 on February 11, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    Hi Indigo (90), u are so right. At least when I do Internet dating, I don’t have to go out with anyone. My profile is on a website but I hardly go there. Not even sure about internet dating sometimes. I am bit turned off from it sometimes. Of course I know why. I hope I don’t meet anymore men online who doesn’t want to talk on the phone. Dominique, u and Mercedes are good friends and ur birthdays are near. Ok. That’s great. Tonight I feeling so tired and irritable. Had a stressful day today.

  198.  #199BeLoved on February 11, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    When people discover that they have actually been requiring the most obnoxious traits in their partners…transformation occurs. – Gay and Katie Hendricks

    FW – do you happen to know by any chance where they talk about this more in depth? I’m scanning Conscious Loving to refresh my memory.

  199.  #200k2012 on February 11, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Hi Lori. See u sent the letter. Ok he is contacting u. Are u going to answer or what?

  200.  #201Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    RE 199 I read that book but don’t recall that concept.

  201.  #202Femininewoman on February 11, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    Lizka you can do it. The one thing I would recommend is choose your words. Use words with high vibrational frequency to communicate your confidence in yourself and how excited you feel about taking on the role. Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself why would they want you for that position?

  202.  #203Lizka on February 11, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    It’s funny FW. I work for a recruiting agency. I sell people to companies.

    In the company where I work, we are taught to sell our people in 3points: Science (what he can do), Art (who he is) and Return on Investment.

    I based my letter on these 3 points. I said what my experience in this field is, what are my soft skills related to the position and what would be the return on investment if they take me instead of an external candidate. In bonus, they will see that I have perfectly understand their sale’s pitch!

    Hehe Very proud of myself.

    I had to write it in English because the district VP is based in the US, so Cheri is correcting it right now. Might post it in here after, so you sirens can add your magic touch and suggest some “high vibrational frequency” words.


  203.  #204Linda on February 11, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Lori… you felt thru your feelings… you wrote them out and found courage to follow thru. cudos!

    Now comes the part of living true to all of that. We dont have any control over what the other person does only ourselves.

    Rori’s said so many times. “when a man says he wants to be friends or does not want to be in a “relationship” with us then what we should do is
    “get your energy out of there”. It is hard, but when done it feels so good.

    I had the man from my last relationship contact me a few weeks after we parted ways. It was via email, with pictures from our trips etc. His email and what it said made me sick. I closed the door to him and that toxic relationship and never opened the door again.

    Honor yourself and your feelings and boundries. If it were me, I would remain silent.


  204.  #205Veronica on February 11, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Hi, I am deeply in love with a wonderful man. He’s my soul-mate and he feels the same for me. We have never touched or kissed because we met during very trying times in our life and we wait for the moment we can finally be together. We fell in love quickly. It was meant to be. I have never known a lover this intimately in my life. I know everything about him, and he about me. I’m just running out of ways to profess my love for him. I need some suggestions please. Thank you so much and God Bless you.

  205.  #206Lori on February 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    He called me back, I answered. He does not even understand why I should be upset. He felt like everything was fine. I told him when he needed to talk, I listened and understood. I had been wanting to tell him how I felt for a while and wasn’t able to. We talked calmly even though he could tell I was upset. he said this is why he didn’t want to be in a relationship. He didn’t want to deal with emotions nor did he want me being hurt over him.

    He finally said that he would call me tomorrow. I said No. He said “you don’t want me to call you tomorrow? I said No, goodbye K”. Then I hung up.

  206.  #207Heart on February 11, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    CudG sent me a funny one-liner and smiley face email response to my email response.

    So…this is where we’re at…
    I feel so Irritated…
    He knows he isn’t asking me out…I know he isn’t asking me out….and this Isn’t-Asking-Me-Out thing is hovering over us.

    I feel as if My-unspecialness-to-him….is so difficult to ignore at this point.
    I feel a resigned acceptance…

    Any input would be appreciated.

  207.  #208Heart on February 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    yay Lori

  208.  #209Turquoise on February 11, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Hi Sirens, I heard from Sweetheart yesterday and today. I was being tentative, a little short in my responses, saw what I was doing, and decided to practice with being more warm and open, and it was just stuff about me…. And it had the instant reaction. He asked to see me today, which I turned down (be less available) but not just so I could, but because it would have been rushed and me driving up him. I just sweetly said it would feel nice to see him, but I had a full evening with errands and gymnastics. He texted me during the class and for about 2 hours tonight. What I got tonight, was hearing how overwhelmed he feels with his financial strain. His pulling back and choosing to work on taxes rather than see me last weekend… I get it, he’s trying to solve a problem. He said he feels like a loser, he’s embarrassed, worried all the time. I often felt like he was just so in la la land about us. So in love, cloud 9…. Type feelings. Also as an escape from his reality. The first time he stayed at my house he said he felt like he was in a soap opera. He gushes about how beautiful and comfortable my house is. He tells people I live in a castle on a hill. It’s a big house, but it’s no castle!

    Anyways, it’s been 2 months, I see the wheels spinning, trying to figure out how to fit me in his life. I’m a little worried he’s going to think he has nothing to give me.

    So, I tried to sound confident that he’ll work things out, that it will be ok, and that I don’t care about the money. There are lots of things we can go that don’t cost much. He said he knows that i font care, but feels bad he can’t do what he wants. He did say he wants to see me. My girls will be with their dad this weekend, so we’ll find some time. I’m going to try and make plans with some friends too. Feel like I need a great girls night. And a movie. That would be fun!

    I’m proud of myself for not falling into old habits. I stayed positive and focused mostly on me. I didnt fall apart thinking id done domething wrong, or lean forward. But what do I do now? How do you date a man who feels low about himself because of his finances? I don’t know if I really want to CD unless its just platonic. Chemist texted me today, we chatted a little, but nothing special. He is a nice man, but I felt really queasy when he kissed me. Him sticking his tongue in my mouth, felt invasive.

    I really thought I needed a man who would spoil me. So I could show off to my friends, the flowers and jewels… I even shared with sweetheart that I like that a lot. Now I feel shallow, as if its more important to get flowers than to be loved by a good man.

    I wonder how to be that allows him to feel good about himself, without my over functioning… Yet still have fun and enjoy dating.

  209.  #210Tereana on February 11, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Erm….iamabutterfly? How can you possibly know if or what he wants to talk to you about? Lol I’m not trying to laugh at you, but i think of you take a step back, you might even find your actions a little amusing – you sent a message in response to what you thought he was going to say? I’ll tell you, girl, I’ve been there. Which is also part of why I’m laughing. Why not just hold onto yourself, and if he wants to talk to you about something, he will…


  210.  #211Starbright on February 11, 2013 at 9:15 pm


    Aw, sounds like you are doing really well! And, sounds a bit tough too!

    It seems to me that in whatever ways possible that cding would be ideal. The questions that you both have about finances and what feels comfortable as well as wanting a good man may be easier to work through when one can feel more relaxed because he isn’t the only guy.

    Also, it’s not bad to want some material nice things at the same time that you want a good guy. It’s okay to want it all!

    Cding in all other ways too will also help. Sounds like you are doing that with planning an all girl’s night and your skiing trip, etc.

  211.  #212Turquoise on February 11, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    Starla. I feel your frustration and applaud you for looking at yourself and what you could try to do differently. I’m doing that myself, and it’s how we grow! It is really hard to try not to get in their heads, especially when they don’t share a lot. I have been there, ohmygosh so tiring!
    I certainly was not perfect this weekend. But I did better than I ever have, to not get triggered into over reaction and leaning forward. You are doing great looking at everything, feeling your feelings… Choosing your words… I’d also suggest not to do or say anything just yet. Would it hurt anything to take another day to process it? The reason I say this. Is because your words feel charged. About him, to other sirens. I don’t think that’s where you want to come from. If you wait a day or even better until you see him, you may have thought of a different way to share or if you even want to.

    If you feel he will resent coming on valentines day, u could suggest just celebrating on Friday. It seems you like your time alone and seeing him 3 days in a row, may be too much right now. Maybe it’s not about him driving omr not sticking up for himself, but you beeding to take some space for you?

    I’m worried you could be sabatoging yourself here. I hate to see you blow up or melt down and then deeply regret not taking a little space. Valentines Day is a lot of pressure. I never want to waste time, i want to make the most of things. but maybe its better not to think of it that way. I hope I haven’t offended you, I think you are awesome and amazing!

  212.  #213Turquoise on February 11, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    Starla. I feel your frustration and applaud you for looking at yourself and what you could try to do differently. I’m doing that myself, and it’s how we grow! It is really hard to try not to get in their heads, especially when they don’t share a lot. I have been there, oh my gosh so tiring!
    I certainly was not perfect this weekend. But I did better than I ever have, to not get triggered into over reaction and leaning forward. You are doing great looking at everything, feeling your feelings… Choosing your words… I’d also suggest not to do or say anything just yet. Would it hurt anything to take another day to process it? The reason I say this. Is because your words feel charged. About him, to other sirens. I don’t think that’s where you want to come from. If you wait a day or even better until you see him, you may have thought of a different way to share or if you even want to.

    If you feel he will resent coming on valentines day, u could suggest just celebrating on Friday. It seems you like your time alone and seeing him 3 days in a row, may be too much right now. Maybe it’s not about him driving omr not sticking up for himself, but you beeding to take some space for you?

    I’m worried you could be sabatoging yourself here. I hate to see you blow up or melt down and then deeply regret not taking a little space. Valentines Day is a lot of pressure. I never want to waste time, i want to make the most of things. but maybe its better not to think of it that way. I hope I haven’t offended you, I think you are awesome and amazing!

  213.  #214Turquoise on February 11, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    Thanks star bright. I mean Cding men, on real dates. I agree, may feel like less pressure since he’s not the only one. I could talk to him about it. But he says he loves me, wants to marry me…. He doesn’t want to date other women, I really don’t know what to expect him to say. We go have a lot to figure out. Maybe I could even say we could take a step back until things are more settled for him. I don’t know. Ugh, it’s been a long time since I was in a relationship.

  214.  #215MovingMagic on February 11, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    I had fun on my date tonight. I checked in with myself frequently, used feeling statements, & colorful, feeling words. I laughed so much, & that felt so amazing! None of it was about HIM at all. I did feel comfortable in his presence though. He went wayyyyy out of his way to walk me to the train, & that spoke volumes to me. I love kindness in people. I love gentlemen. Ahhh…it feels like a warm embrace.

  215.  #216Heart on February 11, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    I feel sad.

  216.  #217Heart on February 11, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    Maybe I’m just taking everything way too seriously…
    So he’s stepping back…fine…Good.
    I’m way to focused on him anyway…
    No need to be so extremist…
    If it ends…it ends…but I don’t need to be jumping the gun all the time…it’s painful…

    Still …my disatisfaction…has been noted.

  217.  #218Tereana on February 11, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Finally went back to the other thread to catch up on some posts. Thank you, Ulii, Iama, and a few others for comments on the last thread! I appreciate the hugs and kind words : )

    Tonight, I feel tired, and other than that one text, I didn’t write to (k) at all today. Even when he responded. I wanted to make a response, but then, I just couldn’t. Something was energetically stopping me, and I decided to listen to that thing. It was easier not to, and instead to focus on how I was feeling, and not overdo it. And this way, I may get to a place sooner where I am able to talk to him again. I thought I was going to have to wait a week, but now I’m feeling better, like it could be sooner. Still, I don’t want to push myself. Seven days is a pretty significant number, and can allow for a lot of growth and change. We’ll see how I feel tomorrow.

    For now, I just keep thinking how GREAT it felt to let out that pent-up energy. !!! It felt so good…I feel clear. Purified, somehow….

  218.  #219Tereana on February 11, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    Dominique – Thanks! And yes, I know you’ve written posts before. But it’s still nice to see you in the “main” post area. I always love your comments in the thread! Glad you hang with us here, too : )


    Corrections to #169:

    “posts that *speak to me*” (not “speak toe.” lol)

    He came *onto* me (not “into”) [Ha! no comment…; )]

    And “I *sat there* and felt what I felt..”

    I’m sure you guys figured those out, but just in case you were confused – I was typing on my phone ; )

  219.  #220Heart on February 11, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    I took a walk. I feel much better…

  220.  #221Emerson on February 12, 2013 at 12:42 am

    Hi Veronica
    Can you please clarify about you situation? You have not touched? Have you met in person?

  221.  #222Daria on February 12, 2013 at 12:47 am

    Nanny CD is finally trippin the way I thought he would

  222.  #223Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 3:04 am

    Today’s challenge, no leaning forward, again!! 🙂

    Happy day everyone!

  223.  #224Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 3:05 am

    Hello Emerson!

  224.  #225Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 4:48 am

    (((( Heart)))) what kind or special thing will you do for yourself today? Getting my nails done last week really made me feel better. They still look awesome, and I feel more pampered and special with pretty fingers. 🙂

    I’m not sure if I shared this or not, but I had a dream someone gave me a huge engagement ring. The diamond was round and sparkly, and bigger than a dime. I know it’s silly, but I feel like my subconscious is saying, it’s out there, the love you want is coming and it’s going to be big and gorgeous and sparkly. If its not sweetheart, it’s ok…. Will be even better for me! I looked up some pictures of rings and saved them to my phone. If I feel a little down, will just look at them. 🙂

    Good morning sirens! Sending hugs!

  225.  #226Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 4:48 am

    Good luck with the job Lizka!

  226.  #227Vi on February 12, 2013 at 5:07 am

    I feel very thankful to my sister for writing me a letter. I felt warmth in my heart and connected, and cheerful and giggled while reading it.
    I feel very thankful to my girlfriends who messaged me today. I feel feminine connecting with them.
    I feel very thankful to my laptop is works good while I am waiting for a new one. I feel supported and loved by the Universe. I feel satisfied to be able to do my job which feels more like a hobby to me. And I feel very thankful to the Universe for that.
    I feel very thankful to MH who wanted to please me and bought me me favorite cake. I felt cared for and appreciated.
    I feel very thankful to MH for coming up with a fun plan for the weekend and taking care of the logistics.
    I feel very thankful to MH for helping me in the kitchen when I cut my finger a little and wanted help. I felt safe and glad to have someone willing to help me.
    I feel thankful to myself I noticed feeling resistant to show my appreciation to close people, and MH in the first place, and judging it as a ‘weakness’. I may want to gently shift this pattern.. and I may not. No pressure on me, it just felt good to notice to start with. I feel more and more accepted by my self and more relaxed too.
    I feel very thankful to myself I got myself out of the situation when it started to feel intense. It feels like an immense care to me.
    I feel very thankful to myself to remembering that I have this great and very gentle renewing peel and applying it. I feel adored by myself.

  227.  #228Heart on February 12, 2013 at 5:22 am

    omg….is he getting ready to poof?
    Somebody say something….

  228.  #229Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 5:24 am

    Good morning Turquoise. Not silly at all. I say sink into the feelings of joy and ecstasy looking at that ring on your finger. You are worthy.

  229.  #230Mel on February 12, 2013 at 5:25 am

    Hey Turquoise,

    I think you’re on the right track. Staying positive and showing confidence in his ability to figure everything out. That’s all you really can do….

    Perhaps the next time he does something super sweet or something that makes you feel all melty, tell him how amazing it made you feel. That this is something he gives you that can’t compare to material gifts. Your sweet kisses make my life feel rich….

    Just a thought.

  230.  #231Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 5:29 am

    Veronica I believe you two will have to find a way outside sex (if you don’t want to engage in that) to express your passion for each other. This is what I have heard coaches recommend. I believe I heard Rori suggest the same thing to a woman who is a Christian. If you are both on the same page with your beliefs and values, that should be discussed and you look for creative ways to express your passion. I do believe Gay Hendricks breathwork might be able to help somewhat but I also believe that you can both agree to some kind of touching, petting and holding. I would want to know how I experience his touch before getting into a long term commitment that I might not want to break.

  231.  #232Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 5:30 am

    Oh gosh Mel. Everytime I read your words I melt. Any man who has you must really feel lucky.

  232.  #233Annie on February 12, 2013 at 5:39 am


    Just had a man/ acquaintance ‘wanting’ to friend me on FB.

    So wrote back.
    Hi Mark, thank you for the friend request. Wanted to know if you were married or had a partner as I only feel comfortable accepting friend requests from men not in relationships unless I know the other half and both people as a couple and she is happy about it to

    And got this message back,
    Hi sorry i pressed friend request by mistake and couldnt recall. I dont mind u staying as friend though and i dont intend communicating with you.

    Why on earth would I want to be friends with someone who friended me by ‘mistake’
    Yeah right that would be why when we were both athe same event the he couldn’t reign his neck in, eyes all over me.
    I do not want to be friends with someone who has no intention of communicating with me. Or is trying to friend me behind his girlfriends/ wives back!
    By then DELETE!
    Weeded out.
    I feel grateful to the universe for helping me say no to what I do not want.
    TY universe for helping me weed out what I do not want.
    In order to say yes to what I do want, first I have to say no to what I do not want.


  233.  #234Heart on February 12, 2013 at 5:42 am

    Annie….what are you so afraid of?
    Remember to trust your boundaries.

  234.  #235Annie on February 12, 2013 at 5:49 am

    Yuck, now I feel sad, the poor woman who he is ‘involved’ with has in a relationship and pics of them together all over her FB page. And he has nothing on his about them being together.WOW!

    I feel more and more enlightened everyday and am learning more and more.

  235.  #236Memulo on February 12, 2013 at 5:50 am

    Nice vibe on the blog today, though I only flipped thru comments. I went on a date with a new CD last night and he reminded me of dumbcd in some ways. I still feel so shocked that I was dismissed so easily but surely. Makes me feel so small.. and makes me want to look out for myself more.

  236.  #237Annie on February 12, 2013 at 5:50 am

    I do not feel afraid I feel sickened and sad not scared or afraid heart. X

  237.  #238Annie on February 12, 2013 at 5:51 am

    And totally repelled.

  238.  #239Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 5:51 am

    233 reads to me like a detective with a microscope looking for clues. Looking for something wrong. Always finding the clues. Always proving oneself right. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

  239.  #240Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 5:53 am

    Memulo in what way were they similar. These could help highlight your attraction signals.

  240.  #241Annie on February 12, 2013 at 5:57 am

    Ty for your judgmental projections FW.
    Feel a bit fed up at constantly reading your projections about me.
    Have you a mirror?

  241.  #242Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 5:59 am

    This is worth the few minutes to listen to

  242.  #243Heart on February 12, 2013 at 6:01 am

    FW – do u think CudG is preparin to poof…
    and is it weird that he didnt ask m out on V-day?

    Ok Annie (((hugs)))

  243.  #244Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:04 am

    Heart it seems to me that a lot of your energy and expectations are floating in his direction. I believe he knows you want him. He can feel it. Who knows he might be thinking of surprising you. He might be thinking of poofing who knows. V-day is loaded with expectations and commercialization. Many men I know hate it because it puts them under a lot of pressure.

  244.  #245Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:04 am

    I believe he knows you want him (to).

  245.  #246Annie on February 12, 2013 at 6:06 am

    Note to self other peoples judgmental thoughts about me have nothing to do with me.
    They are not my business.
    Feels best to become aware that this does not feel good and is not in my best interest to engage when this happens and move away from that energy.
    My business is to be aware of my feelings and move away from stuff that feels bad and towards something that feels better.

    I want to be happy.
    So time for action to do something that makes me feel good and happy.

  246.  #247Annie on February 12, 2013 at 6:07 am

    Ty Heart.
    Hugs back.

  247.  #248Annie on February 12, 2013 at 6:11 am

    I feel grateful for my knowing and intuition.
    I trust my intuition.
    Ty intuition.
    My intuition is always right.

  248.  #249Heart on February 12, 2013 at 6:13 am

    Thank you Fw…
    I feel a little raw & naked imagining that CudG knows I want more from him…
    and yes I have expectations…
    It’s surprising how into myself I can get…I’m loosing perspective…

  249.  #250Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:17 am

    He is a smart man. He knows what you want. You know what you want. Own it. Your desire is worthy of shining its light into the world. Give him space to see if he wants to give you what you want.

  250.  #251Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 6:18 am

    Thanks Turquoise 🙂

  251.  #252Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 6:23 am

    Today’s challenge will not be easy at all 🙁

    Cheri is in a bad mood (because of work he says) and it made him get angry at me for a small not very important thing.

    That makes me want to lean forward big time.

    But I know he loves me. I know he will realise in a few hours that he is not mad at me.

    So I will put my phone in my purse until lunch time and at noon I will eat and go shopping. I received by email a promotion for beauty products so this should help focusin on myself instead of leaning forward.

    If he still doesn’t talk to me at lunch, I’ll leave for my client meeting without leaning forward. Will simply say bye, go see my client and than go home and do my things.

    Ok good morning ladies!

  252.  #253Heart on February 12, 2013 at 6:27 am

    Thank you Turquoise…<3

    I'll try to do something nice for myself soon.
    Lovely dream 🙂

  253.  #254Heart on February 12, 2013 at 6:31 am

    Thanks FW…i feel soothed and empowered by your words.

  254.  #255Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 6:31 am

    @210 Tereana – “Erm….iamabutterfly? How can you possibly know if or what he wants to talk to you about? Lol I’m not trying to laugh at you, but i think of you take a step back, you might even find your actions a little amusing – you sent a message in response to what you thought he was going to say?”

    Admittedly, I feel really embarrassed reading that.
    Your laughter doesn’t feel good, even though you say it’s not directed “at” me.

    I can tell you’re trying to help me change my perspective, though, and that makes me feel better.

    I didn’t send him a message in response to what I thought he was going to say, necessarily.

    Just in response to him trying to talk to me.

    Wow, now that I type that out I see how silly that is. I feel extremely embarrassed and honestly? Now, I’m balling my eyes out.

    I just don’t understand what’s going on, and I feel so scared.

    It feels so scary having a guy try to talk to me when his gf is not around.

    I feel so angry at men in the past who have acted a different way towards me when their girlfriends were out of town.

    It makes me throw up walls, clam up, and feel so angry.

    The guy who hurt me so bad broke up with his girlfriend sooooo many times before he got married, but he would never break up with her FOR GOOD.

    He would always try to get my attention and talk to me when they were broken up, and I would always feel so shut down, scared, and angry when he did that.

    He would do it when they were STILL TOGETHER too, but when she was out of town.

    I loved him so much and I feel so angry that I’m still even thinking about this. I feel so guilty that out of so many guys, he was the first guy I really, really loved.

    It’s never been easy for me to really, really love.

    He doesn’t deserve this power over me.

    I hate that this still hurts and it still needs to be healed. He’s been married for almost five years now. This is ridiculous.

    but the memories and the affect they are having on me are still there, and I think I’m trying to deny that, or I’m reliving it or trying to prevent from getting hurt again or assuming that things are going to pan out the same way.

    so, Tereana, while I do see the humor in it from an outsider’s perspective (and even if I can detach myself from memories, yes I can even see how funny/silly it is) it really isn’t funny to me.

    I let my fear keep real communication from happening.

    and now I just feel humiliated and stuck.

  255.  #256Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:32 am

    How To Persuade a Man

    I’ll tell you a secret that you probably won’t hear from any other man – men actually want to be persuaded by women. For all their talk of independence and concerns regarding being manipulated, they actually enjoy a woman who knows HOW to charm them into doing things.

    There is a secret to being persuasive, and I am going to provide you with a little exercise to try. If you have a request to make from your significant other, try the following steps outlined below:

    1. Make direct eye contact
    2. Smile
    3. State your request in a calm and kind voice, and say it ONLY ONCE

    Hold your smile for approximately 5 seconds, and look directly at him (Do not yell from another room, look in a different direction, avert your eyes, etc,). I guarantee that he will not only hear your request, but more importantly – he will feel it.

    He may not really want to grant your request or agree with what you want. Initially, he may not even respond to your petition, and there is also the option that he will flat-out deny it. In fact, this last response to an undesirable request quite often seems to be the initial reaction.

    However, trust me, he will think about it. Additionally, he will consider what you have asked, and if it is not outlandish, illegal, or impossible, you might just be amazed by the results.

    Bob Grant

  256.  #257Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:38 am

    Iamabutterfly – posted a link to a meditation in 242. In it she talks about evicting fear, anger, regret, shame, guilt out of your body.

    It is a choice. There are a lot of things out there that can help. EFT is one that has been discussed at length on the blog.

  257.  #258Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 6:42 am

    @257 Feminine Woman – Thank you!! I will have to try it sometime this weekend.

  258.  #259Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:43 am

    Everytime I read these words in Rori’s email it speaks to me:-

    Julie had to “understand” what the powerful draw to this man’s “toxicity” was:

    1. She had to “get” how his drinking and “little-boy” problem made her feel “stronger” and “better” than him somehow, and how that felt good to her in a deep way she hadn’t realized.

    2. She also had to really look at how HIS problems were HELPING her to take the focus off of her own issues – especially how she was not taking good care of herself, and how that made it so difficult for her to RECEIVE love.

  259.  #260Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 6:48 am

    These words too:-

    “The way in is through the RELATIONSHIP. By changing some fundamental things about the way you think, the way you talk, and what you do, you can affect the relationship in such a huge way that the man transforms right along with it.

    It’s almost a magical experience – I know what it felt like that when it happened for me many years ago. When my lovely husband turned moody and neglectful – even criticizing and mean – I was devastated.

    What I learned to do that changed the way I felt inside myself and about myself was I changed the way I spoke and acted with him, and then that completely changed the whole relationship.”

    They tell me that I don’t have to be hijacked by emotions. If I change the way I think, it will change the way I feel. I feel so excited and grateful for these words. Each day I awake I get an opportunity to experiment with this.

  260.  #261Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 6:48 am

    It would feel really good to stop pining after men. They should be pining after me.

    It would feel so good to just focus on myself and forget about all of them. How did I get to this place where I’m thinking about them and not feeling my own emotions, having my own experiences?

    It seems to happen so quickly, like I lose my focus on the true goal of my life in my desperation to be held, protected, and understood.

    I want to get back to a secure place. This time, I want to really notice when I start spiraling back down to thinking too much about what this guy or that guy is doing.

    I want to feel so secure in myself that I only ever respond to men and the whole rest of the world with warmth, love, and laughter.

    No more fear and anger. I feel so tired of fear and anger.

    I feel teary…

  261.  #262k2012 on February 12, 2013 at 7:00 am

    “Why on earth would I want to be friends with someone who friended me by ‘mistake.” Annie-233. When I read your story I asked myself the same question. And also why would anyone wants to be friends with someone who has no intention of communicating with u. Can u imagine? Doesn’t make sense. What some of these men do is use facebook to cheat. Many affairs it would seem start on Facebook so we women have to be careful.

  262.  #263Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 7:03 am

    “V-day is loaded with expectations and commercialization. Many men I know hate it because it puts them under a lot of pressure.”

    I agree. Although it’s nice to have a romantic date to celebrate the love too. So, I feel open to be surprised on this day. (I remember receiving love-letters from my classmates in our Englsih class in the primary school 🙂 ).. Still, I find myself relaxed & without any expectations around it and that feels good. It´s probably also cultural, as in the countries where I have been living, Vday is mostly considered a day to celebrate friendship, the romantic aspect is quite new & mostly commercial, helping the shops sell lot of heart-shaped chocolates & other stuff.

  263.  #264Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 7:16 am

    why I’m scared to be with you:

    you like things tidy, and I’m messy
    you don’t like spicy food
    you are so frugal, and I like to spend.

    I feel afraid you are going to try to control me.
    I feel afraid you are going to abandon me.

    That’s basically it…

  264.  #265Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 7:23 am


    I have not been able to follow all your story lately, but…still I want you to know I feel connected to your pain as I recall feeling similarly lots of times. I remember you said some time ago that you have not really been on real dates yet. Is this still true?

    What I see of your comments is that the activity is a lot on an imaginary level, and that this creates negative feelings for you and also feels draining…
    And to be thinking & focusing about the guys intentions & ways at looking to you… It is all still imaginary & if it would be me I´d try to convince myself “This doesn´t really count.”

    So I wonder, how about online dating? Have you tried it? Have you tried Christian dating sites?

    In a similar situation I would want to get to a scenario where the real communication and real dates are happening and maybe even lots of them. With nice guys. Where the intentions or actions of one concrete man are not so important to maintain myself analyzing. Just because I wouldn´t have time for it while I´m enjoying real dates. Probably, if it´s a new scenario, it will feel scary & awkward at the beginning, but little by little .. I believe it could have a really positive effect and keep myself more focused in myself and my feelings & less focused on the guys who are not really stepping up in a real way.

    What do you think lama?

    Wow… I hope I could explain myself more or less. And I hope this didn´t hurt you somehow…

    ((((lamabutterfly))) Through your posts you come across as a really amazing, fragile & feminine and like a beautiful flower to me. But I would like to see you happy!!! You deserve it so much!

  265.  #266Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 7:30 am


    “Why on earth would I want to be friends with someone who friended me by ‘mistake.”

    Interesting – I imagine if it were me, I would have felt somewhat curious and excited about the prospect of someone new wanting to get to know me, then a little hurt and rejected, bruised ego when I realized he tried to friend me by mistake.

    I learned this from Brene Brown, the shame researcher. She got really upset over a comment from someone who saw her sight, and her friend said, “Oh, I probably would have just let it hurt my feelings, cried about it, and moved on.”
    So the next time something like that happened, that’s what I did.
    It felt good to feel so vulnerable.

  266.  #267Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 7:30 am

    “1. Make direct eye contact
    2. Smile
    3. State your request in a calm and kind voice, and say it ONLY ONCE

    Hold your smile for approximately 5 seconds, and look directly at him (Do not yell from another room, look in a different direction, avert your eyes, etc,). I guarantee that he will not only hear your request, but more importantly – he will feel it.”

    Hehehe… I have done something like this often… And I feel it always works when it comes from a natural place of a feminine desire to have my man doing something nice for me and the same time feeling free of expectations, but not feeling guilty I have that wish. And the man almost always responds wonderfully…even exceeding and giving more than I had wished for. Because he himself will be feeling happy to see me happy. 🙂 I´m experiencing this a lot lately. 🙂

  267.  #268Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 7:37 am

    @ Memulo 236

    I feel glad to see you going on dates with new CDs.
    And to read you want to look out for yourself more. I feel your vibe lifting.


  268.  #269Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 7:39 am

    Beloved I believe I saw Brene Brown in a clip just yesterday. I have go back and check.

    Regarding the comment I believe that guy was just being defensive. He felt a laser sharp pointed focus on his actions and his ego would not allow him to be humiliated (read rejected). So he made the first swipe. I believe most humans would do that.

  269.  #270Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 7:41 am

    Yayy Ulii!!!!

  270.  #271Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 7:47 am

    awww, thanks Ulii. that felt really good to read.

    Imaginary. Imaginary. Imaginary. I hate that word. It feels childish and dreamy and weak.

    yes, Ulii. It’s still true. I haven’t been on a real date in a year. I cried and didn’t particularly care for that date.

    I’ve turned down one date since then.

    I feel like a few guys might’ve asked me out, but I wasn’t interested, and I wasn’t shy about letting my body language, vocal tone, and language communicate that.

    I try to be “open” to men, but the above ^ example isn’t exactly “open” is it?

    I feel soooo judgmental of online dating.

    Maybe it’s because when I “go online looking for love” I usually don’t feel good.

    I feel good when I’m out living my life, doing things that make me happy.

    so, I have this belief that guys who “go online looking for love” aren’t feeling good either.

    I do have a very vivid imagination.

    I feel extremely frustrated, because I’m not sure where to start, or what exactly my problem(s) is/are, or if I can trust my instincts. or when my instincts turn into crazy suspicions and runaway imaginations.

    I wouldn’t say that I don’t feel happy, though.
    I have a great life.

    Want to revel more in the good stuff, show gratitude, and truly be the wonderful woman I am.

    but I have this voice that says, “Not good enough for love, not worthy of love.”

    or when a man shows up that I actually could feel interested in, all I feel is fear and anger and confusion, and slip into old patterns.

    I honestly feel guilty for wanting a romantic relationship and I don’t know why.

    I feel ashamed of wanting to be with someone, guilty for the men I’ve rejected and hurt, angry and sad over the men who’ve rejected and hurt me, and I feel judged by the entire world. Why are you still single? You must want to be single.

    and in a way, I do want to be single, because it’s familiar, safe, and I can’t be controlled or abandoned by anybody in my singleness.

    I can maintain a certain mystery, because I’m really beautiful and nobody will ever find out how messy, selfish, angry, sad, and crazy emotional I am.

    but I feel like more and more people are finding out.

    and are abandoning me, because I’m just not good enough.

    or are writing me off as crazy…

    ouch this feels so bad.

    I need some good stuff.
    I need to hear some good stuff.

    I feel happier when I try to forget about that desire.

    I feel so confused.

  271.  #272Dominique on February 12, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Isn’t it amusing how just when this post of mine goes up, I sudden;y get so busy I can hardly be here.

    I feel thrilled that this little tip felt good/useful to you Linda and to Lizka last year.

    I feel so warmed by all the wonderful sentiments here from Iamabutterfly, Femininewoman, Shasha, Rebecca, Smile, Emoticon, k2012, April Rose, Ulii, Heart, Vi, Mercedes, Lori, Indigo, and there are likely others I’ve missed acknowledging for which I am sorry.

    I feel so thankful for all of you, your courage in doing this work which can feel difficult and painful, for allowing me to share in your process.

    Sending love to all.


  272.  #273Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 7:48 am

    If somebody friends me by mistake in FB.. Could be true (I have happenedto push the wrong botton too sometimes), I would still feel flattered that they were looking to my profile or my comments or something I had posted…otherwise they couldn´t have push the wrong button I guess… Also, it could be an excuse after my negative reaction or asking him/her if we know eachother and stating I don´t want to be friends.. Lots of people look to fill their friendslists with beautiful people from opposite sex, not necessarily for cheating.. Also that could be. Or they could just want to add as much people as possible. But it´s not my concern what the other people’s reasons are. I’d try not to let it ruin my good mood thouhg.. I would happily state my boundaries (Like I only accept single men.)
    I find getting angry about what a certain man’s intentions might be is harmful to my own vibe.. That doesn´t mean I don´t listen to my intuition.

  273.  #274Heart on February 12, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Yup – I think Annie’s non-friend was lying when he said it was a mistake.

  274.  #275Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 7:53 am

    I love my compassion. I love my eyes and my hair and my smile and my dainty wrists and I love my legs and my DDs.

    I love my fire. I love my frankness, my honesty, my spirituality.

    I love my competiveness.

    I love my shyness. I love the way I get when I don’t know what to say.

    I love my curiousity. I love my love of words and language.

    I love the beauty that’s out in the world that I can sometimes feel is a part of me.

    I love my love of people and their quirks and complexities.

    you know, lately, I’ve noticed I’ve been less loving and accepting of people in general.

    and definitely of myself.

    this feels so scary and wrong to type out and I don’t understand why…

  275.  #276Dominique on February 12, 2013 at 7:56 am

    And “I love you” – Iamabutterfly – Can you add this one too?


  276.  #277Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 7:56 am

    I love my sense of humor and my goofiness.

    but you know? my back really hurts. it hurts sooooo bad.

    and my heart hurts too…

  277.  #278Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 7:57 am


    “Regarding the comment I believe that guy was just being defensive.”

    Doesn’t matter and that wouldn’t be my business anyway. My business would be what I’m feeling.

  278.  #279Heart on February 12, 2013 at 7:58 am

    <3 Dominique…I'm believe your Tension technique…helps with Backpain & insomnia!

  279.  #280Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 7:59 am

    I feel so shaky and I’m questioning my sanity.
    I feel so lost.
    I feel guilty for feeling lost.
    I’ve abandoned myself and I don’t know where I am…

    why do I keep doing that?

  280.  #281Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 7:59 am

    Lots of people look to fill their friendslists with beautiful people from opposite sex, not necessarily for cheating.. 🙂

  281.  #282Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 8:00 am

    @276 Dominique – Right now, I don’t know if I can, and that feels really scary. I don’t know why I can’t. I’ll try. I have to go right now. Eating lunch would feel good…

  282.  #283Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 8:02 am

    I feel scared to move from my desk. I feel scared of being seen like this. Puffy face with tears pouring down. They’ll know something’s wrong. Something IS wrong. but I don’t know how to explain it. I shouldn’t have to explain it. I just want to feel and be and I want that to be okay.

    I feel exposed…

  283.  #284Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:05 am

    That’s wonderful for you Dominique!

    So glad this business is blossoming for you.

    I just love everything that you share.

  284.  #285Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 8:06 am

    I feel small and scared and embarrassed.

  285.  #286Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 8:06 am

    i’m literally trembling. my jaw is quivering..

  286.  #287Heart on February 12, 2013 at 8:07 am

    ((((Iama))) – you have a poetic soul…

  287.  #288Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:09 am

    # 233 made me smile.

    There is no way on earth I could take this personally, or be hurt by someone doing this who has never even met me. It would make me laugh!

    Annie, you seem like a dear and sensitive person, yet your posts read as quite defensive. Any chance you could imagine other people’s acts as more benign?

    I am sorry if this comment is unwelcome, yet I would just love to see you experience others as less intentionally hurtful.

  288.  #289Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 8:10 am


    Iama I feel so endeared and compassionate for the your vulnerability you show on the board.
    I feel like I want to swathe you in a coccoon of shimmering pink love energy. Reading your posts touches such a tender place in my heart it brings tears to my eyes.

  289.  #290Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:13 am

    I feel jealous of you ladies who are able to withdraw your energy and emotional entanglement from a man. Genuinely. I read posts of sirens doing this with envy.

    I feel so unable to do it with D. I can sit here, in my home, yet my thoughts, and particularly my heart, are full of him. Any time I try to turn my thoughts or feelings away from him I feel a twinge of pain. Getting to the point where I can imagine staying away for any length of time feels impossible…

  290.  #291Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 8:15 am

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  291.  #292Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Indigo it takes time.

  292.  #293Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 8:25 am

    “The Outcome Isn’t Under Your Control

    Just focus your energy on FEELING what it is that’s the TRUTH for YOU about this.

    Even if there are MANY truths – just write them all down.

    Then feel your way through each option, and see if you can FEEL which one is the MOST true for you at the moment, the one that most sings in your heart, where you can feel your body RELAX and breathe. (That’s often the clearest sign we can get that we’ve hit on the truth for us for the moment – we FEEL released inside.)

    And practice, moment by moment, saying the truth, DOING what feels truthful, and letting the outcome work out by itself.

    How To Speak Your Truth To A Man
    I can promise you that what you choose, and how things unfold in the short term, are not important – what will work for you with a man in the LONG TERM is the VIBE you create around yourself when you listen to yourself and speak the truth.

    When you do this, you open up a way of communication with a man that THRILLS him.

    It creates INSTANT CONNECTION – and the longer you do it, the deeper the connection becomes.”

    Rori Raye

  293.  #294Dominique on February 12, 2013 at 8:28 am

    Iamabutterly – It’s a bit telling that your back is hurting, your support. Yet you are aware of this and growing through this, and your back will continue to melt away. And Heart is so right in saying that the more you can release the tension which is surely being help in your back, the better you will feel in all ways.

  294.  #295Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 8:29 am

    Other people should use Rori’s tools, sink into their own feelings, follow Rori’s guidelines, and use FM’s on Rori’s blog.

    Is that true?


    Can you absolutely know that’s true?

    Yes, totally, yes.

    How do I feel when I believe that thought?

    I feel like I need to point out where other people are doing it wrong, and get entangled where people seem to be utterly not interested in using the tools.

    My chest feels like a hot red puffer fish that just POOFED out all around my heart.

    Turn it around.

    Other people should NOT use the tools (, they totally should, haha)

    *I* should use the tools (groan).

    Hahaha this is cracking me UP!
    There’s a little voice in chest, like a little monkey jumping up and down, hopping mad and shaking her fist, ranting
    *I’m* doing it right!
    *I’m* doing it right!
    Why can’t OTHER people do it right, TOOOOO????

    hahaha this is sort of the exact same thing Annie is doing (not the doing it right part but the ‘why would anyone do x, y or z part).

    That feels MUCH lighter.

    What do I need to learn?
    What do I need to see?

    It isn’t resourceful to respond from a perspective of “my way is better”.
    I want connection – it doesn’t give me what I want.
    I want to feel good – this has the opposite effect.
    I don’t know how, I only know that I have eliminated this behavior that doesn’t serve me.
    I am happy and I am fulfilled.
    And so it is.

  295.  #296Dominique on February 12, 2013 at 8:30 am

    Indigo – 290 – And what’s wrong with this aside from it hurting? This is your path right now. Maybe there’s something more for you to learn in this, something which has yet to show up.


  296.  #297Annie on February 12, 2013 at 8:31 am

    After my lovely bath, tea and taking care of myself.
    It feels so good to step back, enjoy as see things even more clearly than ever.
    I feel grateful and accepting of my gift of heightened sensitivity, intuition and awareness. It serves me well and does not let me down when I listen and tune into it.
    It has saved my life and me from harm on more than one occasion.
    When I have ignored, pushed it down, not listened, doubted and not trusted it I have then found myself in harmful and situations.
    A microscope analogy now actually feels a useful way of looking at this and understanding myself better although I do not see it as a negative and wrong. It is exactly right for me. I love my microscopic ability.If we say that all people look at the world through their own individual filter (lens) which they do. Some lenses cloudy or distorted, some clear, and some magnified, I do view the world through a microscopic lens actually more through an electron microscope. This gift gives me the ability to see things more clearly in a very different more clear way. And although there are some disadvantageous as with everything it is what it is and I feel grateful for my gift of heightened and extremely clear perception.

    I feel good.
    I feel accepting.
    I feel welcoming to all my feelings and intuition.
    I feel thankful and grateful.
    I feel happy.

  297.  #298Annie on February 12, 2013 at 8:39 am

    262: k2012:

    “Why on earth would I want to be friends with someone who friended me by ‘mistake.” Annie-233. When I read your story I asked myself the same question. And also why would anyone wants to be friends with someone who has no intention of communicating with u. Can u imagine? Doesn’t make sense. What some of these men do is use facebook to cheat. Many affairs it would seem start on Facebook so we women have to be careful.

    I feel in agreement.
    I feel pleased I trusted my feelings of something being off and intuition.

  298.  #299Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 8:41 am

    @ Heart

    I agree… lama has a poetic soul! 🙂

  299.  #300Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:42 am

    That is the trouble, Dominique. I know my heart well enough to know that there is something more for me to learn, that the story’s not over yet. When something is truly finished, I have no problem letting go and moving on.

    It’s, what’s holding me here? *why* is my heart still so *in* this that is driving me a bit crazy with not knowing. Sigh. I suppose this *is* my path for now, you are right.

  300.  #301Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 8:45 am

    Indigo have you tried noticing the feeling and just saying “thank you” to the feeling of uncertainty. To the part that feels sure there is more to learn but don’t know what it is?

    I would question that belief of it driving you crazy.

  301.  #302Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 8:54 am


    I’m sorry if I have not completely “got” you or “got you in your completeness”.. I do believe you have a nice life and that you are happy in most parts of it. I

    An I hate the word “imaginary” too. I used to hear it here on the blog when writing about my long distance virtual relationships with men I never ever got to see. NewZealandCD was one of them. Nevertheless they created real feelings in me. But still…I agree, they were imaginary and it has helped enormously to hel me sort of label something I don´t want in my life anymore…to step out from that world full of waiting, guessing, analyzing…and only dedicate my energy to real men who really are in front of me, and their energy is coming towards me in a way that doesn’t leave me pondering.

    About online dating, I´m not saying it’s for everyone and I wouldn´t even be “looking for love” there. I would just got me some real dates to practice and – hey – love might happen along the way, or not. I´m just suggesting it as a possibility as it has been really helpful to me. To get me some quantity and interactions with men, to become softer, get rid of my angry responses, get triggered and triggered, but every time less…etc…etc.. And it does work in a sense, that while doing it I am changing my ways to realte to men and the quality of men and quelity of attention I´m getting is increasing. Online..and also in real life.

  302.  #303Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Sorry for the typos & mistakes…I am in a hurry to get into shower and leave the house. 🙂

    Lama, lots of love to you!!!

  303.  #304Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 8:58 am

    @ Femininewoman

    You spoke about Rori telling some advice to a Christian woman about fining passion besides sexuality..

    Could you remember where this was .. in some program or newsletter or article?

    I feel really interested in that.

  304.  #305Dominique on February 12, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Yes Femininewoman, exactly. The lesson(s) don’t necessarily have to have words attached to them. It could be shift of consciousness, perception, awareness, a feeling (s), or something else.

    I understand the distress you seem to be feeling, the possible fear, the pain, so can you try really, really allowing this? I mean really allowing it?

    I think you have been, yet I still feel resistance to it, and what you resist persists as FW often aptly says.

    It’s also possible there is a deeper connection here which may need some sort of ritual performed around it, such as a cord cutting ceremony.


  305.  #306Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Ulii I can’t remember it right now. I am wondering if it is at the end of Reconnect where she is reading some letters of people who write and answering them as well.

  306.  #307Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Ok… thanks FW!! I have 1 more question:… do you know about how long this Vday all programs for the price of 2 offer would last. I couldn´t find a date in the mail about it.
    I´m seriously thinking to make a effort to get the money together to have them all. 🙂

  307.  #308Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 9:10 am

    You ladies are amazing, want to get back to all of you who showed me support! Thank you soooooo much.

    Lunch felt sooooo good and nourishing, I swear I could feel the nutrients in my food reviving me and giving me strength.

    I feel exhausted and peaceful now. It’s amazing how my feelings from an hour ago feel so distant now. but I feel thankful to know that they are there, deep inside, that I still have healing to do, and that I CAN and WILL heal.

    need to get some work done. I feel silly for having to put it off to cry, but I feel good too…

    now I can actually focus!

  308.  #309Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 9:14 am

    It’s lunch time and I usually spend it with Cheri. He’s in a bad mood today and he has not ask me to go out of the office yet. 🙁

    Whatever, I just heard that I will be receiving a nice amount of money from my insurance company (shopping!) and I am on my way to go beauty product shopping. Leaving the office not too long after lunch to meet with a client. Too bad for him… But for me too at the same time… 🙁

  309.  #310Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 9:20 am

    307 I checked through everything before and noticed there was no deadline mentioned.

  310.  #311Annie on February 12, 2013 at 9:22 am

    It may have been a genuine mistake.
    Either way not someone I am interested in developing a friendship with.
    I feel doubtful though as this particular man I saw recently as I felt his energy coming at me, following me about etc. My intuition tells ms me otherwise.
    I trust my inner knowing and intuition.

    Understand where you are coming from though.
    And hear how you imagine you would have felt.
    This is not how I felt.
    I felt off about it.
    As I had seen him with another woman at a couple of events in the past. And it feels difficult to know at events like this, if people are a couple, married, just friends, dance partners, live in lovers etc, unless you get to know them. And then recently his energy was well and truly coming at me and he was following me around asking me to dance etc. And now a couple of weeks later trying to friend me re FB.

    Something felt off.
    I felt uncomfortable accepting the request without knowing and stated my boundaries. So spoke my truth.
    I felt yucky repelled and not interested.
    I did not/ do not feel rejected.
    I felt rejecting of his request not rejected.
    I did not offer him anything for him to reject.

    It feels a bit odd ‘friends’ and Facebook.
    It takes a while to form relationships and have real friendships.
    Most people are just acquaintances having surface level sociability conversations with no real depth.

    Feeling reminiscent how my husband said to me recently that he didn’t think there was anything else, just that.
    No there is a lot more than that.
    There is getting to know another person, warts and all and still liking them anyway and developing real friendships, being honest with each other and not pretending and being PC. Saying it as it is and letting the other person see the real you. Not the socially conditioned PC you.

  311.  #312Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 9:30 am

    @ Femininewoman

    Aww… thank you for looking it through! ((((((FW))))))
    Now I only hope it will maybe last a week or so after Vday, so I could get my tax refund and by that afford it. 🙂

  312.  #313Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I failed at not leaning forward. I asked him if he wanted to get out of the office during lunch.

    Wow, leaning back is really not my thing… Hmmmm got to work on that…

  313.  #314Annie on February 12, 2013 at 9:32 am

    I feel curious.
    How many real friends do most people have in a lifetime?

  314.  #315Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 9:38 am


    Maybe the next time try to imagine how much nicer it feels when he asks you to lunch…

  315.  #316k2012 on February 12, 2013 at 9:42 am

    I have a lot of catching up to do since my last comments earlier this morning. Hi ladies. At work and busy as a bee. I go on a break for a few days and I am looking forward to itHi Lori, good move u made there re K. Its confusing u and upsetting u. Continue to circular date cause I knew u were enjoying it. A short while ago, the words, “actions speak louder than words” flash across my mind. If u want to know if a man is TRULY INTERESTED in u, watch his actions. Remember that ladies, actions never lie cause u can’t fake forever. If he is not interested, he is gonna show it. All when the words are saying,”I am interested and the action is showing that he doesn’t call or do whatever u expecting him to do depending on the stage things are at, if he doesn’t do it, he is not interested. Remember that. Another action that shows he is not interested or not that into u, is when he is busy. Everybody is busy with work and other stuff. We all know that. But if you are truly interested in a woman, u will call, say u are really bogged down with work but u were just calling to check on her and u will talk later. Trust me ladies, actions never lie.

  316.  #317Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 9:42 am

    Lizka –
    Here’s my answer:
    Rose – here’s the deal…working with me is not about “strategy” or “mistakes.”

    You HAVE to make mistakes as you’re shifting and changing…otherwise there’s no process to work with…!

    It’s all about shifting your “vibe” so that you ATTRACT your Mr. Right and many, many other great men all at the same time.

    If your “vibe” is that of a woman who “chases” – you lower your pool of men to men who WANT you to chase them – which means they’re going to be very feminine in nature and standoffish and not make you happy. You keep to your old patterns.

    And here’s the big question – Why would you chase?

    And the only answer is: You don’t believe, deep down that what you want will show up for you.

    You believe you have to “work” for it…and that’s not the truth.

    So – I want you to experiment with how chasing and not chasing – how you feel – compels you to act – and how those things you do affect how you feel.

    While you’re practicing with men – their response is not important in any way except to HELP you, to guide you to undoing old patterns and experimenting with new things and shifting your vibe to what will work SO much better for you in the long run.

    Individually calling a man, or inviting him somewhere, or winking at him on is not the issue here….these things can work fine – it’s the ENERGY, the INTENTION – your EMOTIONS and vibe behind your DOING it that’s the KEY here.

    We’re working on being “Rock Star Free Spirits” here – so that you can do Anything – as you say…

    Love, Rori

  317.  #318Annie on February 12, 2013 at 9:43 am


    hahaha this is sort of the exact same thing Annie is doing (not the doing it right part but the ‘why would anyone do x, y or z part).

    Did I write why would anyone?
    I thought I wrote why would I.
    But I maybe mistaken.

    Some others may want that.
    I don’t.
    I understand why others may want what I don’t.

  318.  #319Ulii on February 12, 2013 at 9:46 am

    @ Annie

    I agree partly about the FB… there really is a great deal of aquaintance level superficiality going on.

    Although it is also a great place to remain in contact and share photos & stuff with important friends & family if you can not be close to them physically. I feel really grateful to have a simultaneous connection to all of my many sisters and sharing stuff with them there while I’m living abroad.
    Also I feel the support in Siren Island FB group to be uplifting & fascinating.

    And it gives me a chance to be in superficial contact (looking photos, sharing some info etc) with many aquaintances.. The onse who woudln´t probably be part of my life without FB. And that is not necessarily a bad thing.

    It becomes bad when FB (and computer in general) takes away big part of our quality time with people closest to us.

    Persoanally, for me, it also feels best not to have FB as a place where to start or develop romantic contact. That´s why I don´t usually never add men I have dated or might be dating there.

  319.  #320Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 9:52 am

    “I find getting angry about what a certain man’s intentions might be is harmful to my own vibe” – you can’t be loving and angry at the same time. Anger closes your heart.

  320.  #321Daria on February 12, 2013 at 9:56 am

    I disagree . I can feel anger and love and all emotions at the same time. I can feel angry and behave lovingly to myself and others.

  321.  #322Daria on February 12, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Isn’t that what Rori writes ?

  322.  #323Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 9:58 am

    “P.S.You may have already heard about My Complete Collection before today – that’s because I introduced it to a small test group a few weeks ago. Well, the response has been amazing! And now I’m so happy to make sure everyone gets a chance to sign up. So I hope you’ll take advantage of it right away:

    Get All My Programs At 70% Off ”


  323.  #324Daria on February 12, 2013 at 10:00 am

    It feels Challenging !!!! To feel anger w an open heart… But it feels Expansive! Try it! I’m trying it right now …

  324.  #325Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 10:04 am

    I don’t remember seeing that in writing Daria but I do remember hearing her say that anger shuts down your loving vibe. The proof I believe is in the experience. Lizka recently shared an interaction and she was hurting as a result of the shouting.

  325.  #326Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 10:07 am

    When I am angry I am angry. That I know about myself. It is one of the times that I experience emotional hijack.

  326.  #327Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 10:16 am

    It feels interesting that Daria thinks love and anger can go together. I do too.

    I associate love with anger. I don’t understand that you love me until you get angry with me.

  327.  #328Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 10:16 am

    “The exact body position that will open up your intuition so you can know what’s going on with him”

    Starla I read the above comment which is part of the Commitment Blueprint promotion and I thought of the exprience you recently shared.

  328.  #329Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 10:25 am

    Iamabutterfly – that reminds me of Gay Hendricks Upper Limit theory.

  329.  #330Daria on February 12, 2013 at 10:28 am

    i didnt mean in writing word for word

    i know that she writes about being able to feel many emotions at once, including anger.

    she also talks about keeping the heart unzippered/open through all emotions

    and she walks a woman through feeling furious yet staying open to being touched and receiving love from her husband on Love Scripts

    that felt wow for me

  330.  #331Daria on February 12, 2013 at 10:30 am

    when im opening my heart while focusing on events i feel angry about right now…

    i feel an expansion and a mmmhrrrrr from my chest that swallows and i feel all pleasant and happy quickly

  331.  #332Emerson on February 12, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Hi Lizka !

  332.  #333Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 10:36 am

    That LoveScripts sound very interesting.

  333.  #334Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 10:40 am

    Though I do see staying open with the unzippered heart as different from feeling love and anger at the same time. I believe I can choose to visualize my unzippered heart while angry. I do believe I can do that. This I believe beause I have an intention to pause during intense situations which I have been able to honor for the most part.

  334.  #335Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 10:49 am


    Nooooo! You didn’t! I lifted that from K2012
    I feel grateful because I’ve been thinking about empathy a LOT this weekend and was wondering what is the difference between when I can feel open and expansive and see someone else’s point of view
    when I don’t –
    I now see it in a new way that I understand more clearly.

  335.  #336Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Regarding love and anger –
    I had a very deep discussion with a friend this past Saturday, she felt hurt and angry and betrayed by me and was talking to me as we took a long walk, side by side.
    I felt very open and expanded, deep listening, welcoming the connection with her
    I felt a coherent field of love, like the coccoon I was thinking of for Iama, interpenetrating and sparkling and alive all around us and between us. I felt sort of merged with her, even, and very safe.

  336.  #337Violette on February 12, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Indigo, I have felt what you are feeling I think, and it feels so awful, like someone else matters more than I do, like I love them more than I love myself, and like I can’t feel whole without them.

    Life is full of surprises, and new ways of learning how to live well and take great care of myself. I’ve found that the longer I can stay positive and stay on my horse, (no matter how bad it feels at the time)the better I get at it, and then something comes in and I forget about that problem completely!

    Anyway wishing you empowerment!

  337.  #338Smile on February 12, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Dominique, I’m glad you managed to sort it. I knew how hard you had worked on it x

  338.  #339Violette on February 12, 2013 at 11:36 am

    D has still invited me to Valentines at his place. He’s going to cook. I’m not that excited because it doesn’t sound like he’s a good cook, the way he talks about it…it’s one of those situations of wanting to receive the gift, but not liking it! Well, this one’s a freebie, maybe he’ll surprise me.

    He called yesterday, which was nice, because it wasn’t a text, and he chatted with me for a bit. I realize I have a lot of judgements around him, the person he is, and it makes me sad, that I am that way.

    The more I can be light about dating him, the nicer I am to him.

    I went out last night looking beautiful and flirted with some gay guys. It felt good to be out and having my own experiences.

    One straight guy who was there was a jerk and said something insulting my culture a bit, and I tried to correct him and teach him a lesson, then I stopped. I’m proud of myself for catching myself in a reaction, and letting it go. Who needs that guy! There are too many awesome people out there.

  339.  #340k2012 on February 12, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Oh Valentines Day is thursday. Almost forgot. I will be off bfrom work. Yeah! I have no Valentine. Who cares. I can’t nbe bothered. Hairdresser is coming to do my hair and I am going to do my eyebrows in the morning and attend to personal business. I am going to watch and see if overseas cd is going to say anything. I should check my friend and go out to lunch either with her or my sister. But my sister might go out with her boyfriend I guess. He contacted me yesterday and said “Hey baby, I have been busy all morning.” He got back from the match late on Sunday night. Yeah! Yeah I said in my mind. I am my own Valentine. I am good. I soon find the right man. God will help me to find the right man some day. That day is coming soon.

  340.  #341Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 11:38 am

    Yea Violette. 6 billion on the planet

  341.  #342Smile on February 12, 2013 at 11:42 am

    Hi sirens, this was a huge cause of anxiety in previous relationships so I would appreciate advice as to what you think to this …

    I’ve got a week off work next week. Amb cd has already said how excited he is that we will be able to spend some time together. And quickly gave me a glance at his shifts. It’s getting closer now to that week and I want to make plans with my friends. He’s very good at booking me in advance already as he knows Im a busy bee. So I thought I’d say this…

    Hey, looking forward to spending some time with you next week when I’m off. I know you shared ages ago when your shifts are with me and now it’s getting closer Im going to be confirming days to see my friends too, it’d feel great to confirm when your free too 🙂

    Hmmm, I don’t like the word confirm… And lacks in the word feel, but it’s a start.

  342.  #343Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Interesting topic from Innerbonding:Staying Centered in Conflict

    When people are upset, they are not open to learning, so whatever you say to them falls on deaf ears. You cannot get others to see you or hear you when they are upset or angry.

  343.  #344Violette on February 12, 2013 at 11:47 am

    Yes FW, there are so many men out there!

  344.  #345Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Smile I believe it is best to tell him when YOU will be free or available for meeting up. The way you write it kinda feels like you fitting yourself into his free time. Like he is the centre of your world that everything else revolves around.

  345.  #346Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 11:50 am

    “The time to speak your truth and stand up for yourself is NOT in the moment of conflict.”


  346.  #347Smile on February 12, 2013 at 11:54 am

    Yes, i considered this, I could fill my week up and not be free at all…
    Maybe it’s best just to make him aware that my plans are filling up fast next week…?

  347.  #348Smile on February 12, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    I’m sure he’ll ask about my plans for the hols when I see him tomorrow anyway.

  348.  #349Smile on February 12, 2013 at 12:01 pm

    If he gets to see me in my week off = bonus 🙂

  349.  #350Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 12:05 pm

    and aforementioned friend just emailed me like everything is ok.
    I feel sick and nauseous that I had emailed her and reached out to her, told her I was sorry that I scared her
    and once again, I end up feeling guilty for someone else’s stuff?
    She did something behind her husband’s back and wanted to keep it a secret and felt betrayed when I protested.
    She *did* tell her husband, according to her, but now I feel so suspicious…
    She just popped back so fast like everything is fine and now wants to stop being such deeep friends and go to being Friends Lite.
    I feel like she’s trying to sweep stuff under the rug and make it go away.
    I feel like I set the tone by reaching out to her.
    She had an appointment with her therapist this week and I couldn’t even imagine she would contact me before then.

    I don’t know if I should even bring it up with her.
    After hearing hours of rationalizing why it was okay to be deceitful with her husband,
    and not hearing anything from her about what she learned from the experience,
    I find it difficult to imagine being comfortable with her again.
    This isn’t what I want.
    I want full-on co-committed relationships with the people closest to me.
    I believe what she wants is different from what I want.
    I believe she wants to maintain the status quo, the comfortable uncomfortable in her relationship.
    I feel baffled why people would do this, as it was so unbearable for me I couldn’t do anything BUT change
    and she and my other close friend
    both have said they don’t know if they can change.
    and I know I can.

    I don’t want a nudge nudge wink wink overlook this stuff ‘we’re only human’ kind of relationship – I want superior relationships, with high integrity. I know this is possible, I’ve seen it, been around it, and have been clearing out my internal sludge to allow for this in my life.

    I see…
    as long as I was being shady with C and she could be there for me,
    there was no focus on the shady stuff with her.
    I believe she feels scared and intimidated that I transformed so quickly.
    As long as I was being shady, she felt like it gave her permission to normalize her shady.

    My chest feels like there is a lead weight in my heart.
    I am imagining the lotus in it, opening and opening and opening.
    I feel confused.
    What am I learning?

    Ugh, that Heart song through my mind
    “Sometimes love just ain’t enough”
    I hate that
    I want love to be enough.

    omg omg omg omg
    this is SO much like my relationship with T
    It was his role to be “kind Guru guy”
    Her role is to be “Kind”
    ewwww, it’s SO much like T
    It’s shame.

    T never could change fast enough to keep up with me, and never did shift enough to really MEET me

    My dysfunctional upbringing shapeshifting chameleon-like abilities are actually serving me in this way.

    My emotions feel to high to respond to her today, so I will wait.
    I feel nauseous.

    I don’t know how,
    I only know I won’t betray myself.
    I AM happy and I AM fulfilled.

  350.  #351Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    This feels like a romantic relationship!
    We’ve gotten closer and closer and then the first time we get really close and it’s HER stuff, not mine, she wants to pull away and be
    “Friends Lite”.

    What do I need to do to take care of my feelings?
    Get up
    take a walk
    Drink some water
    Drink a lot of water.

  351.  #352Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    my online dating profile:

    I have issues that I want to heal and I’m shamelessly using you “online men” to work out my issues. also, I’m cute, intelligent, fun, and provide decent conversation.

    what do you think?

  352.  #353Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    being silly, of course. it feels good to be silly.

  353.  #354Iamabutterfly on February 12, 2013 at 12:56 pm

    ((((Beloved)))) You make me smile. I am currently drinking water. We are soooo connected!!!!

  354.  #355Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Do you feel longing and pining?

    Is it like a clenching in your heart, a sort of silent begging him to stop all his nonsense and just make everything Okay?

    And can you feel your heart and your mind moving fast, trying to cut all the corners and just close the deal?

    Just get it all squared away, finalized – OKAY?

    Well, it’s this energy that pushes a man away.

    And no matter how hard we try to keep it under control, it’s in our “vibe,” and he can feel it.

    Even if it’s not strong enough to actually push him away – it will KEEP him away.

  355.  #356Daria on February 12, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Nanny CD called… and… stepped up! made it all better!

    took responsibility for his own feelings…

    AND heard and caught mine!

    yay Nanny CD! i feel impressed

    also No Name CD has been calling and texting and messaging and i finally called him back… and let him know id want to go out a few times again before i felt comfortable having sex again

    yay! and hes still wants to see me is picking me up at 9:30 tonite


    i still feel a lil scared to share about how i hadn’t been feeling satisfied sexually…

    hearing his voice had me smiling and feeling good

  356.  #357Mercedes on February 12, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Beloved: “I want love to be enough.” – True love is. Please believe. If you believe, really believe, you will have space in your heart and you will get to experience it. People who use the “we’re only human” excuse will not get to experience a love that is truly enough…actually more than enough. Believe.

    Much Love,

  357.  #358Mercedes on February 12, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    I feel overwhelmed. It is a new feeling for me (or at least something I have not felt in many years) and I’m not comfortable with it. 🙁 My tummy is in knots!

  358.  #359Dominique on February 12, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    What a lovely opportunity Mercedes. NEW feelings and around something SO exciting.


  359.  #360Beloved on February 12, 2013 at 2:29 pm


    thank you thank you thank you!!!

    I’m getting it…I’m seeing something….not sure what yet, something is bubbling up…
    a recent dream is coming clearer.

  360.  #361Mercedes on February 12, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    LOL…Dominique…I’m trying to feel that way about it! I do feel the excitement though…that part is awesome. 🙂

    Beloved: 🙂

    Much Love,

  361.  #362Smile on February 12, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    Well that felt easy peasy, didn’t even need to say anything… Once again he just made and confirmed plans! I was going to lunch with ex of 2 years at some point but now I don’t have a single day free!

  362.  #363Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Hi sirens, sweetheart called and we had a really nice conversation about all sorts of things. He didn’t bring up the weekend, but I shared that I need more contact when he is away, because it makes me feel sad and worry and wonder if maybe he’s changed his mind. He said he was very sorry, last thing he’d want to do is make me feel bad and that be absolutely adores me. I know my comments feel a bit needy, but his response made me feel much better. In another part of the conversation he said how much he appreciates me. We do have plans for Valentines Day, I don’t have a lot of time, and he doesn’t have much money, so we are going for a drive to this look out spot that has a stunning view. I’m really excited, haven’t been there since high school! Time for dinner, I’ll be back later.

  363.  #364k2012 on February 12, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    Turquoise,(363) this was the guy who is separated and went to sort out family issues? Good evening ladies, I am off for the rest of the week. Tomorrow is Ash wednesday as most of u know and its a public holiday in my country. I will be relaxing and doing personal stuff. While I still have stuff to do, it won’t be half as pressuring.

  364.  #365Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    FW re 317

    “You don’t believe, deep down that what you want will show up for you. You believe you have to “work” for it…and that’s not the truth.”

    Oh thisis so true. I think I lean forward because I don’t believe what I wantwill happen. But I KNOW it’s sonot true! He ALWAYS come to me if I don’t!

    So I’ll try my best to remember Rori’s words tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder!

  365.  #366Lizka on February 12, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    I said tomorrow because I will do the same challenge tomorrow again. I will do it again and again until I can do a full day of no leaning forward even once.

    So tomorrow no leaning forward Lizka! You don’t need to anyway because you deserve that he leans forward!

  366.  #367Femininewoman on February 12, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Turquoise you soundlike you were honoring your desire, to me. Not needy.

  367.  #368Tam on February 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Interesting things are happening, actually nothing much is happening but I feel a shift inside of me.
    I still haven’t answered MrP’s email from Sunday. Usually I’d have written a million drafts right now, stayed awake all night worrying about what to say and so on. I’d have replied next day latest.
    I have other priorities, like looking after myself, going to the gym, work..and answering him is just another thing ‘to do’…or not.
    I don’t feel like doing it today either.

    Meanwhile, Curly has been on my case, calling 2-3 times a day just to check in with me (but he is a talker and always on the phone, so it is second nature for him)..texting throughout the day….pressing to see me but I had a date yesterday and today just want to be by myself.
    I love the attention. I like him in small doses.
    He is not my forever man but he makes me feel so good right now. So I will keep him around. I know he wants more, but he told me he is happy with anything he can get, even if I don’t commit to him, he will stick around.
    It feels light and easy right now.
    I am tending to my needs first.
    And I am loving it.

  368.  #369Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 7:13 pm

    Yes K, same guy. I realized that I could feel put off that he went to deal with family stuff, or I could reframe it, that all of that has to be taken care of before he can truly move on, and he’s trying to solve his problems. I felt like maybe he was pulling back, or it was about me somehow. It wasn’t, I even said something about feeling forgotten when I don’t hear from him, and he said that wasn’t even possible.

    We are texting now and he’s telling me hour fabulous I look, even though I want to lose weight. We seem to be getting back to our groove…. normally, when things get tough, I get all bent out of shape, lean forward, over function, have the talk where I bring up that it’s not working.
    I even thought about bringing up seeing other people today, and that made me think about how I’d said to him that if he wanted to go back to his wife, I’d understand. Wow, what insight… to see how I sabatoge myself, or share an idea with someone that it’s ok to leave me. If the goal is to have the happy relationship, I shouldn’t be looking at every down time as a reason to end it. It was a big AHA moment for me today.

  369.  #370Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Thank you FW. Thank you very much. It was one of those moments, where I hesitated and wondered if I was doing the right thing. But I didn’t want it to go on, as if I hadn’t felt bad, or that we were just ignoring it. So, chose to just keep it simple and be honest. It worked really well.

  370.  #371Memulo on February 12, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    FW, my attraction factors are being super smart, worldly, unbelievably well educated, creative thinking. What else is new:)

  371.  #372Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Tam, you sound great and tending to your needs first, is perfect siren behavior! Good for you! 🙂

  372.  #373Memulo on February 12, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Thank you Ulii!

    I talked on the phone with another CD just now and it sounded like he wants to make plans to meet. My cd came back from his job interview, it was successful, though they won’t announce the results for a few more weeks. He started thinking if he would be comfortable living over there. I feel less guilty for going on other dates.

    He is crazy in some ways. I had a class today that ends after 9pm and didn’t return his call till 10pm. He was asking what took me so long to get home. I mean – public transportation? There are delays in the evening??

  373.  #374Memulo on February 12, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    Turquoise, ‘to see how I sabatoge myself, or share an idea with someone that it’s ok to leave me’. I do it too, used to do it more in relationships, a bit less now I hope, but I still do it in other areas of my life.

  374.  #375Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Memulo, it’s good we can recognize that, and hopefully address it. I feel like I”m constantly learning about myself, as if it will never end, I’ll always be learning. I’m ok with that.

  375.  #376Turquoise on February 12, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    I’ll tell you girls… I can’t believe how much that dream changed my vibe! THe one about the ring…. the confidence I feel that a huge diamond (may not literally be a huge diamond, but a huge love) is coming… wow, I feel amazing! I know a dream isn’t a guarantee… but what does it hurt to believe it? I don’t see a downside. I feel like a million bucks believing someone will love me enough to feel the way I did in my dream. It feels like manifesting, even unconsciously. 🙂

  376.  #377Olivia on February 12, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    just feel grateful and want to say *THANK YOU* to rori and this community….

    : )

  377.  #378Memulo on February 12, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Yes Turquoise, apparently it is not a big diamond. It is love:)

  378.  #379Memulo on February 12, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    I don’t know if I recognize this sabotaging as a problem enough. Most often I don’t even think I need to ‘address’ it, I think that people have their own opinions about you and their intentions about you and ‘letting them free’ so to speak is not going to change anything. Maybe i am wrong.

  379.  #380Lori on February 12, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Hey ladies, so I was thinking all morning about K questioning that he had done something wrong and what did I want him to do. I didn’t tell him. I thought about it all night and this morning and felt in my heart that I needed to clarify with him.

    So I sent him an email this morning about how I was feeling and thinking. I told him that I think he is a good man. Disagreeing and his feelings don’t change how I see him. I told him exactly what I want from him. I had/have zero expectations of a response from him. My email was for me, so that I felt good knowing that I was clear.

    He texted me hours later saying that he’d read my email but had responded as he had a seriously bad day.

    I’m not sure where this will go but I’m good either way. If he steps up to give me what I want, great, if he doesn’t, great.

  380.  #381Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Feminine Woman 301

    What a beautiful thought. I want to be grateful to the feeling of uncertainty, and I want to trust my own heart. And I very much want to have faith that I am here for a reason.

    I don’t think it’s driving me crazy, I love my uncertainty. But sometimes things you love can feel so unknowable 🙂 but I am trying to go with it, not easy all the time, but yeah. Thanks

  381.  #382Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm


    I was just curious who 305 was to? I wondered if it was me, but wasn’t sure.

    Either way, I agree so much with your sentiments. Really, really allowing your feelings can feel like giving in to the tide that’s going to pull you out to sea, yet it’s what’s begging to happen. Until you do, they call so strongly to you, like what’s happening to me.

  382.  #383Indigo on February 12, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    Violette 337

    Thank you so much for the support. What a journey this is, and continues to be. I know that feeling you describe, or loving someone else more than you love yourself, and I know for me it can feel that way because my heart has this total, honour-bound loyalty which I have tried to break in the past, but cannot seem to.

    Thank you. I want to take care of myself, yet I feel life has so much in store for me, and I have no idea what that’s even going to look like.
    (((my uncertainty)))

  383.  #384MovingMagic on February 12, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    I have another date with the man I went out with on Monday. I like it that he asked me if I would like for him to pick me up after dance class. Of course I would! My personal focus is going to be on taking my time with all men. I’ve been asked out by 3 different men for Valentines Day…& it feels amazing & a difficult to keep track with all of them. I’m tempted to design some calling cards to start handing out. 😉 Even more beautiful than these dates/growth opportunities are all of the creative dance, & teaching opportunities that have come my way. I’ve been asked to perform an African folk-loric yoga solo on stage this weekend. A creative take on the two. Accompanied by hand drums. Whoa! One of my dream visions just presented itself. I feel so energized by all of this movement in my life.

  384.  #385MovingMagic on February 12, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    I often have more than one emotion alive within myself. The people who trigger me the most, & bring the most emotions to the surface are typically those that I love the most. For me emotions can be like waves…ebbing & flowing, or sometimes like the layers of an onion- needing to be peeled back one by one.

  385.  #386ALA on February 12, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    MovingMagic, it’s like that for me too. The ebbing and flowing, peeling back the layers to discovering the depths of my soul. It has felt at times infinite and scary because of the unknown. I feel brave, proud of myself and courageous to want to learn more about myself also. And I’m finding out that underneath all my “stuff” is this vast landscape of pure Love! I feel a genuine happiness returning with the curiousity of child-like wonder. I’m feeling less prickly about people that I judge, because I now know that it’s my mirror reflecting back to me, what I dont like about myself. And I have this wonderful opportunity to really ‘see’ myself and turn it around now. Because I really do want to better myself on sooo many levels. I feel so excited to learn all this now. It’s not always easy to admit how much I want to control in life and relationships. And yet when I let go of that control everything feels so much lighter and freeing… and I guess it’s much easier too! Who knew?!!

  386.  #387Heart on February 12, 2013 at 11:57 pm

    Hi Blog – Wow. I’ve been feeling a lot of emotions today…Mostly rage…and the peace…and rage.

  387.  #388Heart on February 12, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    Something inside me is changing…
    I’m shedding skin.

  388.  #389Heart on February 13, 2013 at 12:01 am

    metaphorically…any skin isnt really shedding…lol….did i need to explain that…


  389.  #390ALA on February 13, 2013 at 12:04 am

    Hi Heart!

    I’m also making a list of “100 things that I Love.” I’m only on # 25 so far, since I started to do this on Sunday afternoon. In my spare time, or when something pops into my head I write it down. It brings a smile to my face when I look at it. 🙂

  390.  #391Daria on February 13, 2013 at 12:12 am

    dear blog

    i am a biter

    and that makes me fly

  391.  #392Daria on February 13, 2013 at 12:13 am

    and that makes no sense


    why are these occurrings?

  392.  #393Mandy on February 13, 2013 at 12:14 am

    Just goes to show…..any lady can find the enlightenment Rori found 🙂

  393.  #394Heart on February 13, 2013 at 12:16 am

    Thanks for the Goodwill & cheer ALA…but this isn’t Christmas time…I’m sure a carebear or teletubby might like that idea…

    But right now I’m An Angry Person …And Feel like your trying to put me down with your passive-be-positive advice…

    Anger has it’s purpose too…

  394.  #395Heart on February 13, 2013 at 12:23 am

    I feel angry at this Mofo…:(
    I bet he’s out with another girl tomorrow…
    and he’s out trying to get laid on the weekends

    and here I AM writing on Blogs
    and wondering if he’ll ask me out again…

    He was full on Insincere
    and I let him into my heart…

    I feel so Angry at myself….

  395.  #396Heart on February 13, 2013 at 12:25 am

    I just want to Scream!

    I hate this Jackass…
    he should have just Left Me Alone!!!

  396.  #397Heart on February 13, 2013 at 1:44 am

    Ok …I’ve calmed down now…

    why am I so angry?

  397.  #398Heart on February 13, 2013 at 2:46 am

    I suppose Living with Uncertainty is challenging…

    Effortless is such good tool.

    I’m sorry for clawing at you ALA.

  398.  #399Heart on February 13, 2013 at 2:48 am

    I took a hot bath…I feel warm and relaxed.

  399.  #400Lizka on February 13, 2013 at 2:53 am

    Ok. No leaning forward today. This is gonna be a perfect day!

    Good morning ladies!!

  400.  #401Vi on February 13, 2013 at 3:25 am

    I feel thankful to the Universe for the beautiful weather, I felt happy to have a walk with my dog and be able to feel and breathe in freshness of the air.
    I feel thankful to MH for helping me to put on my coat. I felt appreciated.
    I feel thankful to MH for finding me a book I’ve been looking for. I felt very glad and cared for.
    I feel thankful to MH for the opportunities to practice expressing appreciation.
    I feel very thankful to myself for yummy and healthy meals I’ve prepared. I feel good and healthy.

  401.  #402Rebecca on February 13, 2013 at 3:57 am

    I met up with a male aquaintance last night. I know him through a social group I’m in, and he asked me ro help him on a project. Rhen he asked me out for a drink a couple of times and he mentioned he had split up with his girlfriend. I agreed to meet him but it was weird, he was acting like he didn’t really want to be there and was very grumpy and really didn’t make much conversation with me. I felt annoyed because I had gone out of my way to meet him where I could have spent a cisy night at home or done something else…

  402.  #403Scared on February 13, 2013 at 4:28 am

    Thank you Rori for your quick response. I don’t even know why I’m feeling anxious or worried about this now. I got diagnosed a few years ago. I just feel like a leper, like everyone knows. I don’t know that I feel better going to dating sites for people with stds. It feels like an us and them and I’m *them* now. I just want to be normal.

  403.  #404Rebecca on February 13, 2013 at 4:39 am

    Hmm, at least I can cross him off my list now !

  404.  #405Tam on February 13, 2013 at 4:54 am

    I have been cutting out sugar, and yesterday bought myself a big, sugary, chocolatey Valentine’s cake.
    Totally indulgent and really silly…but I decided to treat myself really well on Valentines day… 🙂

  405.  #406Rebecca on February 13, 2013 at 5:11 am


    Sorry to moan I just need to get this out somewhere.

    A friend of mine, who I really like has thia habit of moaning about people but then doing the exact thing she is moaning about. And she doesn’t seem to see it?!

    She was moaning about someone who we both know and who I quite like. Everytime I gave my point of view – unless I agreed with her – she would get really overly defensive – to the point I would just back down for a quiet life.

    One thing she moaned about was how he asks intrusive questions. Yet she asks “intrusive” questions all the time. I don’t get it, I really don’t….

    I feel oppressed by these worrying thoughts, and I don’t want to feel like that..

  406.  #407ruth on February 13, 2013 at 5:26 am

    Been away for a bit(4 marathons in 4 days)
    Managed to mostly catch up-lots going on!

    Bit triggered by the anti doctor comments above, I for one certainly do not tell my patients what to do and I do my best to listen to them in a sensitive way.
    My previous(and ongoing training, you never stop learning in this job) is self directed and always has been. In the UK you certainly dont get “spoon fed”

    I actually feel quite angry-have done all morning.
    Urgh-let this one go Ruth

  407.  #408ruth on February 13, 2013 at 5:28 am

    Lori and Indigo, I feel for you both on the letting go front
    Some days it feels impossible

    But I am sure that time will as always heal eventually

    I felt intrigued to read of Starlas “experiment”

  408.  #409Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 5:30 am

    Yes Indigo – 382 – It was referring to your post 290.


  409.  #410ruth on February 13, 2013 at 5:30 am

    I have Dominiques E book and feel delighted about the video series

    And yes, it is a lovely picture of you Dominque

    I feel better now

  410.  #411Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 5:32 am

    ALA – 386 – YES!!! What a wonderful shift in perception.


  411.  #412Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 5:35 am

    Rebecca – 406 – Maybe this is showing up for you to check in with you if this is happening anywhere within you, as a sort of mirror. Or maybe it’s a reminder of how much you’ve grown. Or maybe it’s to reinforce what you don’t want for yourself.


  412.  #413Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 5:40 am

    Re 369 yes Turquoise. As if the relationship is on trial. Telling him that at that time can even insinuate that even if you were married to him you would be looking to bail out during difficult times. I believe when they look at the future, being logical beings, they look at the present and how we behave to figure out what we will do in the event things get difficult.

  413.  #414Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 5:41 am

    Ruth – I just love you…

    And in re doctors, though I feel wary of some and I’ve had my share of them in my life, more than I would ever want anyone to experience, the majority have been deeply caring, amazing individuals. One of my surgeons came to visit me every day the entire five weeks I was in hospital, even on his days off.


  414.  #415Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 5:46 am


    You’ve got to believe. You’ve got to address the scared vibe. You’ve got to start down the road of healing yourself. Nothing is impossible. It might sound ludicrous but simply making the choice to believe, through all what is reality and what is facing you, is what will crack open the door of your mental prison.

  415.  #416Annie on February 13, 2013 at 5:48 am

    It feels awful and weird. to be asked by my own Mother how are you, is everything ok?
    And when I am honest and say no not really, I feels sad about blah blah balh and am just doing my best to get to a better place but it takes time.
    To then be cut dead and be told about a really old friends problems and struggles and all my old friends relatives problems who I don’t even know.
    It feels weird, it feels crap.
    To be asked if I am ok and then be dismissed.
    Oh well nothing new there then. It is what it is.
    Felt best to get myself out of there, express it felt weird to be asked how I was and then be told about a friends problems and her relatives who I do not even know, like they are more important than my problems her own daughter.
    I have no control over my Mother making strangers problems more important than mine and dismissing and minimizing my pain.
    If feels crap, but it is what it is.
    I have no control over what other people do and who they think and what they think is more important to them.
    I only have control over choosing to listen and engage and carry on feeling awful.
    Or to go and take care of myself and move away from things that feel awful.
    I do not ever remember having any emotional support off my Mother over any of my emotions.
    So unlikely I will ever get that off her.
    Time to go and take care of my own emotional needs and make myself feel better.

  416.  #417ruth on February 13, 2013 at 5:48 am

    TY Dominique

    I guess you get variability in all professions

    Off to clinic

  417.  #418Scared on February 13, 2013 at 5:56 am

    FW, thank you for the hug and your wise words. I just keep thinking why now, why am I so concerned right now?

  418.  #419Annie on February 13, 2013 at 5:56 am

    Feels deeply deeply weird and very draining to listen to stories about strangers problems in a very elaborate way, including what they were wearing, and how this person said that and the other said this.
    Feel overwhelmed by so much random information.
    Too much to take in.
    Right time to do something that feels calming and makes me feel peaceful.

  419.  #420Vi on February 13, 2013 at 6:07 am

    Maybe it’s okay to choose pride, ego and fear of intimacy over the relationship. Maybe that’s exactly what I need.

  420.  #421Goddess Lily on February 13, 2013 at 6:09 am


    I don’t know why this never occurred to me to say this before now. I feel horrible about it actually. I never thanked you for your ebook. It helped me through my last break up back in September. I bounced back so fast and raised my self esteem so quickly that I felt bad for the man that left me. My apologies for not recognizing your work sooner. You are an angel!

  421.  #422Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 6:10 am

    Annie: My sister does this same thing a lot. She’ll ask, I’ll start talking and then she takes over the conversation and turns it into something about her or her children or a friend, etc. I realized one day that she wasn’t dismissing me, she was trying to show me she could relate to me by telling me a story about someone who is feeling bad too (or good for that matter). Maybe this is what your mother is trying to do?? I know it still doesn’t feel all that good but maybe it will help to see it from a perspective a little different than her dismissing you.

    Much Love,

  422.  #423Vi on February 13, 2013 at 6:11 am

    Or maybe I am just beating myself up for feeling too scared to make such a choice… It feels good to notice.

  423.  #424Vi on February 13, 2013 at 6:17 am

    It feels too risky. I feel afraid to get hurt more than ever. And I don’t want to feel hurt and – alone.

  424.  #425Vi on February 13, 2013 at 6:19 am

    I hear you Vi. I love you Vi. You are not alone – you have your Boy and Girl energies to take care of you. And family too. And friends. And insurance 🙂 And those who want to be your lovers if you get divorced… I love me. It will be okay.

  425.  #426Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 6:20 am

    J has to be out of town on Valentine’s Day. 🙁 I’ve been dreading tomorrow for over a week now but I’ve decided it will be a girly, girly pamper me night. I’m going to get my nails done and a wax after work then I’ll go home and give myself a nice facial then I will grab a bottle of wine and spend my evening in the hot tub just reading and relaxing. As lame as that sounds for a Valentine’s Day evening, I am determined not to let his absence make me all sad and grumpy.

    That’s the goal anyway…

    Much Love,

  426.  #427Vi on February 13, 2013 at 6:20 am

    No matter what.

  427.  #428Goddess Lily on February 13, 2013 at 6:22 am

    M, that sounds like the perfect plan!

  428.  #429Rebecca on February 13, 2013 at 6:24 am

    Dominique -412 – Yes, I think so Dominique – food for thought 🙂

  429.  #430Heart on February 13, 2013 at 6:24 am

    I think I might be crazy…
    my inner Psychobiitch is havin a fieldday…

  430.  #431Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 6:30 am

    GL: Thank you! We were talking last night and he said “I really don’t want to be away from you on Valentine’s Day. Even though I never really bought into that particular day, I really don’t want to be away from you.” And he said things about loving me everyday and not just on the day someone else told him he has to (we’ve only actually been celebrating Valentine’s Day for the last three years and that celebration has been a lovely dinner with a nice bottle of wine). But regardless, he wishes we could be together too.

    So anyway…I know he’s feeling it too but this can’t be helped. A few years ago, I would have thought nothing of it…but now…I just wish he could be home.

    HOWEVER…that doesn’t mean I have to sit around all mopey and be all mopey when he calls. I can actually take good care of myself and feel pretty and relaxed and loved even when he’s a plane ride away from me.

    Like I said, it feels a little lame to me (no matter how much I try to make it not so….lol) so you have no idea how much I cherish your words: “perfect plan!”. That helps make it feel much, much better. Thank you!

    Much Love,

  431.  #432Lori on February 13, 2013 at 6:34 am

    Good morning! As a followup to my post #380 yesterday, K texted me yesterday evening to say he had read my email but hadn’t responded yet because he’d had one heck of a ******* day.

    I was surprised to hear from him. I’m leaning back which is easier because I feel like something has changed for me. If he responds great, if he doesn’t, I’m good with that too.

  432.  #433Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 6:45 am

    Scared – fighting with reality and what is will just produce more stress and suffering. I am not sure you will get a response to the why question. I encourage you to flip it to how. How can you move forward? How can you best take care of yourself?

    I really, really feel for you but “the only disability in life is a bad attitude”. You can deal with this challenge.

  433.  #434Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 6:46 am

    Bikini wax Miss M?

  434.  #435Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 6:50 am

    FW: Brazilian…I’m overdue

  435.  #436Lori on February 13, 2013 at 6:51 am

    haha, I was just going to say Brazilian.

  436.  #437Emerson on February 13, 2013 at 7:12 am

    Mercedes that does not sound lame at all what a lovely day you have planned for you

  437.  #438Emerson on February 13, 2013 at 7:17 am

    Hi sirens happy valentines week.
    I’m back on the dating sites and have a date to meet one new cd on Friday night.
    A few others on the site I may eventually meet as well…some nice guys out there….
    I’m going with my gut though and stopped responding to one guy who asked me where I live (we live in the same town and he wanted to know where’s my house). :-/ i feel like its bad judgment to ask that we are strangers after all…

  438.  #439Emerson on February 13, 2013 at 7:19 am

    BlueCD is out of the picture and its fine with me. He had poor judgment and I excused it for being akward/geeky but that was not the case he’s actually kind of a nut.

  439.  #440Emerson on February 13, 2013 at 7:22 am

    Annie and Mercedes
    My sister and dad both do this. It drives me crazy. Mercedes I have though the same thing they are trying to relate something. Overall it’s poor communication but what can you do.
    I choose not to tell them stuff anymore because I don’t want to hear all the back stories of ppl I don’t know as Annie said it is exhausting…

  440.  #441Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 7:37 am

    “1. Don’t say anything negative about anyone.

    If you have to criticize someone, frame your criticism in terms of an objective description of what has been done. For example, say, “My ex and I didn’t get along, so we decided to separate,” rather than, “My ex was such a jerk that not even his mother loved him.”

    2. Don’t think anything negative about yourself.

    This is even harder. Every time you hear a negative thought slip through your mind, like, “I am so stupid,” “Why can’t I do this?” or “What’s wrong with me?”, catch yourself and replace it with a positive thought such as, “I am learning,” “I’ll figure it out,” or, “Everything takes time.”

  441.  #442GingerSky on February 13, 2013 at 7:41 am

    Hello, all… I have just a second I can steal from work to connect here.

    Love to you, Dominique !!!!! xoxox!

    Also this: my new favorite zen saying (not atttibuted to anyone I can find). I’m inspired to share this bc of Rori’s comment at beginning of the Walters’ at end Jan on how it’s never too late to find love). Simple but profound and freeing imo… I’ve been meditating on this:

    “Do not seek truth. Only cease to cherish opinions.”

    My commentary on it: When we’re free, not of having opinions, but of cherishing them and making truth out of them, then we don’t have to seek truth, it will simply apprear bc there’s nothing else left to see. To seek truth is like self-protection, having it just creates more need to have more and one is never fulfilled.

    Have opinions and learn by them who I am and who others are. Let them flow in and out, and change. But cherish no opinion and make no truth of any opinion, not even my own opinion about my life and what is possible in it, or about any person and what they are. Let truth present itself and have clear vision to see it. Then I never have to argue with reality or myself, or feel “guilty” about what I do (like unfriending someone, or loving without requirements and scorecards, or letting go of a relationship that feels like an uneven exchange, or letting in someone who fits me and my life in a way I maybe didn’t imagine).

    Everything then becomes as easy, poignant and sweet as everything else, and as profound as the beauty of nature, commonly before our eyes every day, yet unspeakable special and nourishing. I just see clearly and move through.

    It feels good today to share some of what’s been on my mind with Sirens. Thanks for this place and for your hearts and and for sharing yourselves here, that’s huge and I feel such deep deep appreciation for it. Hugs to all.

  442.  #443GingerSky on February 13, 2013 at 7:45 am

    Just let things come and see them with beginners mind guided by the wisdom of experience, not tightly held. No striving.

    I love you Gingersky for saying this to yourself and for receiving it. Thank you.

  443.  #444GingerSky on February 13, 2013 at 7:46 am

    Love to you FW, much love.

  444.  #445Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 7:51 am

    Ouch Mercedes… I’ve been too afraid to try waxing down south. I trim, and that’s about it. Good for you taking care of you!

    Do you have a single friend who might like some company? Maybe you could invite someone to get nails done or meet up for dinner after? Just a thought, not that your plan doesn’t sound perfect. But maybe you could use your free night to spend with a friend, and celebrate with J when he gets back. I want to see Safe Harbor, hoping to get some girlfriends to go see it with me this weekend, and then out and about afterwards with either dinner or to hear a band… something fun! I need to break out my heels, it’s been way too long! Pink or red? Hmmmm…. 🙂

  445.  #446Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 7:52 am

    That’s a good point FW, I hadn’t thought about it that way. Weathering the bad/down times. I always assume the worst, they are losing interest and don’t want to be together, so I get there first and make it “ok”. Amazing what I see in myself with my eyes wide open!

  446.  #447Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 7:54 am

    FW, what you shared with me the other day, about stopping when it feels bad, considering if this person is a friend or foe, and what their intention is, or where it’s coming from, was GENIUS to me. I feel certain that will make a huge difference in my interactions, especially with C, because I get charged pretty easily with him. Thank you for thinking to share! I appreciate you so much!

  447.  #448Shar Lean Way Back on February 13, 2013 at 7:55 am

    Scared, I have herpes too. I have only had 1 outbreak 30 something years ago. When I started dating my now husband I told him. I also told him that normally I would not talk about an ex but I wanted him to know my ex, who was a veterinarian wasn’t concerned at all. I guess due to the nature of his work he was used to viruses and what they are , how they work. .Anyway..we (now hubby and I ) used a condom for a year. And then one time he just didn’t. I remember thinking WOW when it happened. We have not used one since. There is a huge percentage of the population that has it.

    You should read the book The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks. She was the first person whos cancer cells they ever got to live outside the body. Her cells are still the main ones used today and most other cells are even cross contaminated with hers. The cancer she had started from the HPV virus.
    Hope this helps. I am normally a private person regarding this.

  448.  #449Annie on February 13, 2013 at 7:58 am

    I hear you Mercedes.
    I suppose when she asks. I want to be listened to and understood.
    I am able to see it from her perspective.
    I still feel what I feel even though I am able to see it from her perspective.

    Don’t mean to be rude but your sister in not my Mom and I am not you.
    You do not know me or My Mother or the lives we have lived.

    My Mother has always been emotionally unavailable for me.Told me not be stupid if I was hungy or cold as a chuild etc. Saying things like of course your not hungry etc etc.
    The list could go on and on really.
    It is what it is.
    And has always fussed over my friends and done her best to make them her friends. And then gone out of her way to ridicule and put me down in front of them doing her best to get them to join in by name calling etc. And make their lives more important than mine.
    It is what it is.
    And chooses to share her life and her bed with the man who molested me.

    Nothing I am able to do about any of that apart from face the reality of it.

    Just feels best now to have as little as possible to do with her and engaging with her and let her get on with it.

  449.  #450Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 8:00 am

    Emerson, that happened to me once. A guy lived in my small town and asked where I lived. He wanted to come down and sit on my porch and drink wine. Totally freaked me out, as I hadn’t met him yet. I pulled back and we did eventually meet for a drink at a bar, and he shared that he told his best friend (female) what he said and she was like, DUDE!!!! What are you doing??? She doesn’t know you, she has kids!!! He hadn’t thought anything of it, he was just curious and thought it was a solution to me not being free. Men…lol, sometimes clueless, less often dangerous.

    Anyways, we went out a few times, but he complained constantly about money and was a heavy smoker, so I suggested we be friends. We don’t keep in constant contact, but he’s a great guy, and I’m glad to know him. He actually called me several months ago to let me know a woman had contacted him to ask about me because she saw we were friends on facebook. I felt protected and glad he was my friend. So, my point is… he might just be clueless like Mike1, (anyone remember my Mike1 and Mike2? lol) You could always share that you are just a girl… like your privacy. 🙂 Hugs to you!

  450.  #451Annie on February 13, 2013 at 8:01 am

    Ty Emerson.
    I feel heard.

    And feel in agreement with you.
    Best to engage as little as possible.

  451.  #452Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 8:10 am

    RE 450 Emerson I prefer to assume, if I am going to assume anything, that sometimes men are clueless. I do agree about putting your security first and speaking up about it. Hopefully a guy will get it after you speak. That was a great story from Turquoise.

  452.  #453Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 8:12 am

    Scared what crossed my mind was the secrets we keep have power over us because, well, they are secrets. You have shared your story hear and that is one layer peeled away from something having power over you, and taking your power back.

  453.  #454Lori on February 13, 2013 at 8:14 am

    FW, I think men can be clueless at times. K seemed to be clueless the other day when we talked. That’s why I decided to just lay it out for him why I was upset and what I wanted. (#380). I feel much better knowing that I couldn’t be any clearer.

    Now, hmm, I’ve got several CDs that I’m enjoying. 🙂

  454.  #455Shar Lean Way Back on February 13, 2013 at 8:16 am

    Scared, just to clairfy, the HPV virus has many strains. They use numbers to name them. You can be tested to see if you have teh more cancerous causing strain/number. 16 is one of the most cancer causing and it is the one Henrietta had I believe.
    But just wanted to let you know not all HPV viruses are cancer. Didn’t want to worry you about that !

  455.  #456Shar Lean Way Back on February 13, 2013 at 8:20 am

    Ruth, are you familiar with HeLa cells? and Henrietta?

  456.  #457Scared on February 13, 2013 at 8:35 am


    I am floored and honored by your openness and willingness to share you experience. Thank you. Thank goodness I don’t have one of the cancer causing ones.

  457.  #458Shar Lean Way Back on February 13, 2013 at 8:40 am

    Thank You Scared for saying that 🙂

  458.  #459GlowStix on February 13, 2013 at 8:44 am

    ((((((Dominique)))))) Congrats on your book and anything and everything that feels great in your life <3

  459.  #460Starla on February 13, 2013 at 8:44 am

    I was able to mention that i want to talk less and listen more and stop interpreting his body language and just trust him to speak up for himself… it came up in conversation and i was able to just sneak it in. or so i thought. he took special notice of it when I said it. It was like he wanted to know more about what makes me say that, but didn’t know how to ask. which was test #1… not to fuss over him struggling to communicate and help him like he’s a child who is learning in my kindergarten class, and to quit overexplaining myself.

    J*sus, Starla.

    aaaaaaand breathe. relax.

    Anyway, things are feeling much better. When we were chatting on the phone, I practiced leaning back in the conversation, and at one point, we hit this dead silence, and while he bumbled about trying to lead the conversation, I found myself cleaning out my purse without even realizing I was doing it! hahaha, awesome!!!

    And he also said “no” to something I suggested/asked yesterday. I was so thrilled! hahahaha. I would have liked a “yes” better, but it was almost as sweet to hear my man BE HIMSELF.

    And in all this slowing down I’ve been doing, I’ve noticed that he does try to lead a lot, but I kind of get uptight inside and don’t necessarily let him. There were a couple opportunities yesterday to just let him lead, and I did. And I feel so proud of myself!!!!

  460.  #461Starla on February 13, 2013 at 8:48 am

    I feel very optimistic and blessed that he and i are going to have a very healthy, practiced relationship, yay!

  461.  #462GlowStix on February 13, 2013 at 8:48 am

    A general thought brought up upon reading here today…

    Trust and understanding and up-holding a boundary does not require proving another person wrong. Not even to ones-self. A boundary can be up-held without a word or whisper. It is a personal and subjective process. There is nothing to require the other person even know about it, unless a strong enforcement is demanded by the situation.

  462.  #463Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 8:52 am

    Thank you Emerson! 🙂

    Turquoise: My close girlfriends are all married. J and I generally spend our time with other couples and not single people but…that’s okay…it’ll work out this way.

    Annie: “Don’t mean to be rude but your sister in not my Mom and I am not you.
    You do not know me or My Mother or the lives we have lived.” – – I wasn’t suggesting anything different. I was simply wondering if it was a perspective that might serve you to consider. I take it the answer is no… I’ll refrain from sharing my experiences that might relate to yours in the future as I can see you are not feeling very open to that type of dialog. That makes sense considering it is basically the same thing your mother is doing (taking away from what you said and turning it around on herself or others) and that doesn’t feel good to you either…I can see how me doing it in an effort to relate to you also wouldn’t feel good. Sorry for the attempt.

    Much Love,

  463.  #464Starla on February 13, 2013 at 8:53 am

    other news:
    I got hired at a second job doing property inspections on the weekends, so I guess I’ll be focusing on making more money for a while.

  464.  #465Lori on February 13, 2013 at 8:55 am

    Yay Starla!

  465.  #466ALA on February 13, 2013 at 8:58 am

    While lying in bed last night I was thinking that I didn’t explain my list very clear. I just wanted to clarify that my list of “100 things I Love” is about everything *I* love… EXCEPT anything to do with men or any specific man. It’s all about me! Because I want to clear my head of all these obsessive thoughts I have about D. I am constantly thinking about him and wanting to spend all my time with him. And it doesn’t feel healthy.

    ((( Heart ))) I wasn’t trying to give any advise. We were just here at the same time, writting about our “stuff” when our words collided.

    You got me thinking about my fakey-niceness though. And how I dont tell people what’s really going on with me sometimes. Like when I was in a car accident and the cop asked me if I was okay and said “yes” when I had a concussion!!! I do it to not put others out, putting them before me. And it’s a huge block to noticing how I’m really feeling. Then I can go to the other extreme and lash out in anger, being a turbulent beotch. Finding, and expessing myself from a balanced, grounded middle is the goal.

    Lori, that’s why I wrote to D a second time. I felt that he needed a better explanation. He was happy about it and still wants to try.

    I’m on a man break. I feel pretty good about it. Time for me. Dont know how I’ll feel tomorrow. It’s just a sappy, commercialized Hallmark holiday that society wants us to conform to, right?. I checked with myself and it’s not comming from my fakey-nicenes that I believe that love should be experienced every day… not just certain days of the year.

  466.  #467Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Congrats Starla!!! 🙂

  467.  #468Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 9:00 am

    Turquoise: On the Brazilian. From my experience it hurts the worst the first time. It gets better and better after that. Once you hit the forth time, that’s about where it will be moving forward (unless you wait too long in between…then you’re dealing with a “first time” experience every time). I’ve had some BAD experiences with it but I’ve found the right person for the job. She’s the best in the business (IMO) and I would hate to have to go anywhere else. So…scary at first but after that, not so bad. 🙂

    Much Love,

  468.  #469Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Do you shave or trim first Mercedes? I wonder sometimes if I have a lot more hair than other women, it seems like it would be a lot of strips!

  469.  #470ALA on February 13, 2013 at 9:06 am

    Happy for you, Starla!

  470.  #471Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Turquoise: If I’m behind on appointments I trim first. If I go regularly (once every 3-4 weeks), there really isn’t much trimming need. I don’t ever shave. My girl would be p*ssed at me if I did. LOL. Shaving makes the hair grow back unevenly so it makes it harder for her to wax. I trim to about 1/4 inch so she has plenty for the wax to adhere to. She doesn’t use many strips, she uses a type of wax that is applied directly to the hair. She lets it dry for a few seconds and when she removes the wax, the hair comes with it. A few strips are used at the end for those hairs that remain.

    It really isn’t so bad (except maybe the first time) if you have someone who is good at it and specializes in it. Like I said, I had some really bad experiences with it and told myself I was going to try “one more time” when I found the girl who does it now. Been with her for 5 years and if she moved, I would probably buy plane tickets once a month to make sure I could use her services. lol (just kidding but it would be very, very hard for me if she left…)

    Much Love,

  471.  #472Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Mercedes, your comment about not having single friends almost shocked me. It made me think, what would I do without my single friends and if I ever do get very serious with someone, would I not be friends with them anymore? My heart feels all fluttery. But then I thought, the women I consider my single friends… aren’t all that single anymore actually. One always is dating someone, the other is actually engaged, even my sister who I still think of as single has a boyfriend, other friends I love, but really don’t see them that often…. AND, a lot of my girl friends are married, we just do girls nights, and of course they wouldn’t be available on Valentine’s Day. So, it leaves me, and now I have Sweetheart, and my bff. I suddenly feel really sad for her. I don’t think she’ll ever get married to be honest. And right now, her aunt that she is extremely close with, is dying. She has her mom and family, but her other really close friends, except for one, are all married. That one, I belive has a boyfriend. And I have my girls, so I never really feel alone. I’m going to get her something and call her tomorrow, make plans for this weekend if she is in town. I suddenly feel very protective of my BFF. See…. look at what all I see when my eyes are wide open!

  472.  #473Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 9:26 am

    Turquoise: I think it’s an age thing maybe or the fact that since I moved to TX I have been in a serious relationship with J so when I was out meeting people, I wasn’t really doing it alone. We were together and we were meeting up with other couples. Not something deliberate but just not something I have in my life right now. I do have one single sister but all of my family is over 1,000 miles away from me so we can’t make last minute plans. lol. Also, when she’s single, she’s generally “looking” for someone and I’m not at all into sending that message when I’m out without J. 🙂

    I think it’s just the nature of how things flow. J and I live a LONG ways away from any friends we had from longer than 5 years ago (6 for him), our ages and the fact that we’re not single just sort of magnetizes “like” people toward us (ie married couples in their 40’s +). I don’t do “girls nights” because I haven’t really met any women in my area who do so…it just doesn’t really happen for me. J and I spend most of our free time together so it hasn’t really been too much of an issue for either of us but on occasion, (like when he has to be gone on Valentine’s day….lol), I do miss my younger days when a bunch of girls would get together and drink wine and complain about men. haha!

    Much Love,

  473.  #474Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 9:40 am

    Goddess Lily – 421 – <3


  474.  #475Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 9:44 am

    Love back to you Gingersky!!!


  475.  #476Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Shar Lean Way Back – 448 – I was told by a physician I respect and trust that if you’ve had the first outbreak as the only one and you get past the next ten years with no signs of it whatsoever, you are safe from having an outbreak ever. In essence your body kicked the virus out.


  476.  #477Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Turquoise I have to comment that it seems your FM have exploded exponentially also. I remember the days when you were saying it is hard and unnatural and that it is not something that was done in your family. WOAW!!!

    I love how you considerate you are being about your friend.

  477.  #478Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Yeah that all makes sense Mercedes. My BFF I’ve known since we were 16. We both moved away and then back to the small town I grew up in. We both moved again, but are still only 15 min. Apart. When I do girls night, we see movies, have drinks, birthday dinners, etc. not really much thought at all about men. Our children all go or went to school together. I haven’t seen them since the last twilight movie. Sigh… I miss them! I should plan something!

  478.  #479Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 9:55 am

    Miss M – 468 – On Brazilians – I go to the best- ME. I do my own though it takes a little creativity. lol It actually hurts far less doing it on self.


  479.  #480Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Love to “read” you Gingersky

  480.  #481ruth on February 13, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Shar, yes I am familiar with HeLa cells
    I find it truly amazing that nowadays we have a HPV vaccine.
    It was developed in the hospital where I work
    This isnt my specialty tough-Im kidneys and dialysis

  481.  #482ALA on February 13, 2013 at 10:03 am

    Doninique, meant to mention earlier… blessings to you and your continued success!

    Feeling a little pouty that I cannot afford any of you or Rori’s programs at this time. I know that I would gain so much from them!

  482.  #483ALA on February 13, 2013 at 10:04 am

    Dominique <3 … 🙂

  483.  #484Shar Lean Way Back on February 13, 2013 at 10:09 am

    That is great to know Dominique, I have always suspected the herpes was gone why else would I have one break out in 30 years.

    I did know that most strains of HPV go away on their own. Usually without someone ever knowing she was infected but I had heard the herpes virus was always there.

    Thank you,

  484.  #485ruth on February 13, 2013 at 10:11 am

    Feeling very closed off tonight
    Guess i am protecting myself
    Not easy to have to tell anyone they have to go onto dialysis, less so when its a young man who is unlikely to get a transplant
    I know logically its not my fault that he is in this situation, but having to tell him makes it feel like it is
    Anyway, V day.I shall be getting my hair done.The roots are simply dreadful LOL

  485.  #486Shar Lean Way Back on February 13, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Wow Ruth, I never knew the vaccine was founded in the UK. If you haven’t read the story of Henriette it is a very interesting read. There is a lot about he HeLa cells of coarse but a lot of it is about her and her family.
    She was uneducated and poor and at the time doctors just took cells like that without asking or consent. Her cells were and are used over and over again all over the world and her family never received anything for it. For the most part they are poor and uneducated as well. At that time people never questioned doctors. I know my family wouldn’t have.

  486.  #487Starla on February 13, 2013 at 10:21 am

    ruth, my roots are screamin loudly too. my hair is dyed darker than my natural color, so it looks pretty funny now that it’s growing out. i have half a mind to pour this home black-violet dye all over my head tonight, because i don’t feel good spending money on hair salons right now.

  487.  #488Indigo on February 13, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Thank you for clarifying that, Dominique 🙂

    I am really trying to *allow* it all, and it’s amazing how good it feels.

    Like my heart wants not to be doubted and second-guessed any more, but just to let me fully experience what is going on from MY perspective.

  488.  #489Femininewoman on February 13, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Interesting comments about hair roots. Mine are graying and I have decided that not dying is my reminder to be comfortable in my own skin. Also I am concerned about all the ingredients that can create cancer in the body.

  489.  #490Indigo on February 13, 2013 at 10:31 am

    Annie, Mercedes, Emerson

    My mom used to do that a lot. And it used to hurt me and cut me so deep.

    But after some time and a lot of distance, I have got to the point where I can be totally upfront with her.

    If she does that, I smile and I say “I’m sorry Mom, I don’t mean to interrupt, and I don’t want to be rude, but can I just finish my story? I need to say this, and I’m really sad and I would really appreciate a listening ear and a hug.”

    Totally truthful, totally to the point, not making her wrong.

    Sometimes she will pout a little, but invariably she will soften and offer me support. To the point that she doesn’t really do this any more. I believe in being truthful and straight with people, yet totally loving and kind, especially family.


    I am sorry for what you went through.

  490.  #491Turquoise on February 13, 2013 at 10:34 am

    Thank you FW, I know… Was soooo hard and unnatural to me!

  491.  #492ruth on February 13, 2013 at 10:36 am

    I look like a highway
    LOL, I am going blonder again I think

  492.  #493Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 10:44 am

    Dominique: I do remember that you do your own. I tried that. Once. Never again. lol!

    Much Love,

  493.  #494Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Indigo: I really like how you word that with her. Nice!!

    Much Love,

  494.  #495Indigo on February 13, 2013 at 10:49 am

    Thanks Mercedes 🙂 I think speaking authentically with people requires a bit of courage, but I’ve got to the point where I just grab onto myself and say “here goes nothing!”

  495.  #496Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 10:54 am

    Indigo: I’ve kind of gotten that way myself most of the time (HUGE change from what I used to be like…). Not necessarily with that situation and my sister though because I really do think her heart is in the right place and she’s just trying to tell me she understands by giving me an example of how that relates to her life or someone she knows. I love her for that. Actually, I love her for lots of reasons but that is one of them. 🙂

    Much Love,

  496.  #497Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 10:56 am

    ALA – 483 – Thank you so much.

    And if you’re interested, I’ve been conducting weekly free calls since my program was released.

    If you go to my site and sign up for the free ebook, this will put you on my list so you can get notification of future calls. They are all recorded, so if you want to listen to the last three, email me, and I will send you the links to the recordings. Last night’s was especially good, all about ROMANCE.


  497.  #498Dominique on February 13, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Well Miss M, if I ever get down there which is still the plan, I would be happy to take care of you. No charge.


  498.  #499Mercedes on February 13, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Dominique: I will take you up on that!

    Much Love,

  499.  #500Memulo on February 13, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Starla I think when reading your comments that you’re testing your guy to stand up to you but he is trying to be gentle and protective of you. Not because he is weak but one he doesn’t even realize it’s a test and two he doesn’t want to fight with you, it’s not the relationship he us looking for with you. Just a different mindset. So in this respect he passed all your tests. He listens and he is very protective if you. Are you looking for anything else?